
Opponents of last session’s House Bill 1023, the Preservation of Religious Freedom Act, packed the House Judiciary subcommittee meeting to voice their objections. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com
Last week, in the far-away Vatican, a gathering of Catholic bishops very nearly declared a truce in the war against gay marriage. At the last minute, they balked.
Though it was far less conspicuous, we had our own synod in Georgia last week, which took up the same topic. The participants weren’t bishops, but vicars of the Georgia Chamber — this state’s high church of free enterprise. They did not balk.
The Chamber took a first step that will put the very powerful organization in opposition to “religious liberty” bills certain to be re-introduced when the General Assembly convenes in January.
Unfairly or not, the measures have been characterized as a conservative fallback to the growing acceptance of gay marriage in the United States. The Chamber’s policy statement, while not yet finalized, is intended as a signal to Republican leadership in the state Capitol. An early line in the sand.
“Practices that open the door to discrimination or create the perception that Georgia supports a discriminatory business environment would threaten our competitiveness,” Chamber spokeswoman Joselyn Baker said. “It would likely discourage some investments, and possibly affect our ability to attract the kind of quality workforce that we need for the future.”
You’ll remember that we had a sudden fight over this issue last winter. Equally sudden opposition from Atlanta’s corporate giants – Delta, Coke and Home Depot – killed the two bills introduced by state Sen. Josh McKoon, R-Columbus, and state Rep. Sam Teasley, R-Marietta.
We weren’t able to connect with Teasley, but McKoon said he plans to reintroduce his legislation. Virginia Galloway, regional director for Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition, says her group will be among many supporting the measures.
If there is a sense of urgency among supporters of the religious liberty measures, it may be because they sense a window closing. Georgia’s changing demographics, listing in the Democratic direction, will make Republicans in the Legislature less eager to cater to their party’s hardcore, conservative Christian base.
It isn’t just a matter of race, but of age. Early this year, a Pew Research Center poll found 61 percent of Republicans under the age of 30 have no problem with gay marriage.
Not that these religious liberty measures have anything to do with same-sex unions, supporters contend.
“This is not about gay marriage. This is not about gay anything. This about the First Amendment right to freedom of religion,” said Galloway, the Faith and Freedom director, though she also mentioned a lawsuit filed by two pastors of a private wedding chapel, who claim an Idaho anti-discrimination law would force them to preside over same-sex nuptials.
“At some periphery, it might include whether or not a pastor has to do a gay wedding — if that is against his beliefs. But that really is a peripheral issue,” Galloway said. “It’s a much deeper, bigger picture than what was painted last year.”
McKoon, the state senator from Columbus, said the better example of why a religious liberty bill is needed is the case of Chestatee High School in Hall County, where an atheist group threatened a lawsuit over the use of Bible verses by coaches, on and off the football field.
“Those things are happening, and I think they’re happening at an accelerated pace,” McKoon said. The senator understands that, if his bill becomes an argument over gay marriage, he loses. And McKoon finds that frustrating.
“In all the conversations I’ve had, people have acknowledged that there’s nothing wrong with the statutory language, but they felt that the media controversy around it is in some inchoate way bad for the state,” McKoon said. “Which to me is pretty chilling.”
The irony, he said, is that Georgia law already permits the discrimination that opponents say would be embodied by his religious liberty measure.
“Let me put this very simply,” McKoon said. “Current Georgia law – and I have not heard a call from the Chamber to change this – doesn’t recognize sexual orientation as a protected class. This proposal on religious freedom neither takes away from nor adds to the body of Georgia law on that subject.”
Last week, we had one more development on the gay marriage front. During the last session of the Legislature, Catholics were an important part of the alliance backing the religious liberty bills.
But as those aforementioned bishops met in Vatican City to discuss church treatment of homosexuality, Atlanta Archbishop Wilton Gregory published his own thoughts on the matter in a column contained in the archdiocese newspaper. He told of his recent meeting with a group of parents of gay and lesbian children, and spoke of the need for a change in tone.
“Their parents then spoke of the hostile environment that many of them encountered from the Church. The language that the Church uses in speaking of their sexual orientation is often unwelcoming and condemnatory,” Gregory wrote. “I spoke of the distinction that our Church makes between orientation and behavior, which admittedly needs re-examination and development.”
Maybe that re-examination includes the debate over next year’s religious liberty bills, and maybe it doesn’t. But you’re likely to see copies of that column passed around the state Capitol come January.







What about my sincerely held religious beliefs regarding the destruction of discriminatory businesses? What is to stop me from vandalizing and sabotaging businesses that discriminate against the LGBT community?
It wouldn't be all that difficult and it can be done 'lawfully.'
It has been a huge triumph to see bigots like Melissa Klein go out of business and cry about it. If you hate potential customers so much you will not serve them then you do not belong in business.
It isn't happening fast enough, though. Hobby Lobby and Chik-Fila are too big to bring down...for now, but there are thousands of anti-gay companies that can be easily put out of business because their owners are stupid people.
I encourage all of you to be good capitalists and use the market to aggressively put these people out of business. These are the same people that believe that nonsense about market-fundamentalism, lets see how those beliefs hold when they are standing in the unemployment line.
Buying a cake is buying a commodity. Staying at a hotel falls within an area regulated by Congress through the interstate commerce power. Performing or photographing weddings fall within the area of "personal service contracts."
The chances are high that the U.S. Supreme court will never force parties to perform personal service contracts in violation of their religious beliefs. On the other hand, those selling cakes or renting out hotel rooms will not be allowed to discriminate based on race, religion, sex, sexuality or national origin.
The legislature would be wise to avoid an issue that will eventually, surely, be settled by the Supreme Court.
Given Arthur Blank's threats to move his team elsewhere unless he was given use of public coffers to build a stadium; and given Delta's successful desire to have fuel tax breaks at Hartsfield while also trying to shut down competition in Paulding while demanding the right to remain at a feeder airport at Love Field, I think an accurate assessment of the Chamber of Commerce is that today's businesses think the only people who should be given special treatment and solicitude by the Georgia state legislature are themselves. I look forward to the next rent-seeking expedition by one of their number.
If to enable rent-seeking for business is the main reason to support the Georgia GOP, there is no reason to support the Georgia GOP. The Chamber may wish to consider that, as it decides what the law should and should not be for.
This is too much poop for my nickle! The irony I see is the football coaches wanting to protect their right to use Scripture in the coaching of a game that will soon have to be called something else. And the article is about an institution, Ie, Marriage, that will soon have to be called something else,
@Joeleejohnson
Marriage does not need to be called anything other than marriage. It is simply a contract regardless of the sexual orientation of the parties to that contract.
I've got a tip for Mr. McKoon, don't use the word "inchoate" in any sentence ever because that word doesn't belong in a Georgia legislator's mouth. He should know better. Don't ask me to explain why unless you're very very stupid.
Archbishop Gregory?
The same archbishop who was accused of fraud? Hypocrisy? Greed?
Is the gay community buying what he's selling now?
Again...these are interesting times in which we live.
We need crosstabs to keep up.
I guess it's enough to say you care. Why doesn't matter.
@anothercomment
Tried and convicted in the court of public opinion.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/archbishops-mansion-worth-millions/nfQXj/
Read the comments.
Arch bishop Gregory has been accused of none of the above.
" It isn’t just a matter of race, but of age. Early this year, a Pew Research Center poll found 61 percent of Republicans under the age of 30 have no problem with gay marriage."
In fact, probably at least 10% of them ARE gay.
@Wascatlady "In fact and probably" are not compatible. Which is it fact or probably? Neither. it is your opinion so stop calling it a fact.
@Wascatlady They'll grow up.
@Wascatlady
Despite the comments of condescending people the the whiner, it is an issue like same-sex marriage that will turn those 'republicans' democratic in the years to come.
Fortunately for the Democratic party the ideological lines were redrawn about 50 years ago. 50years...it is hard to believe it has been that long already. 50 years since Goldwater signaled the turn of the GOP from the party of liberty and justice for all into a party of racial and religious privilege.
Always humorous to see the atheists in the liberal media scramble to cover the church.
@NWGAL The Chamber is a Church. The only thing that matters is money which they most definitely "worship".
The Chamber of Commerce is a church? The article is about them.
@EdUktr
The article is about one of the major legislative election funding groups reminding their vassals that Government is not, should not be and will no longer tolerate interference from church.
Can you read?
Florida Ministry Told To Choose Between Jesus And Helping The Poor:"For the past 31 years, the Christian ministry has been providing food to the hungry in Lake City, Fla. without any problems. But all that changed when they said a state government worker showed up to negotiate a new contract. ...(A) state agriculture department official told them they would not be allowed to receive USDA food unless they removed portraits of Christ, the Ten Commandments, a banner that read 'Jesus is Lord' and stopping giving Bibles to the needy."
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/09/17/7-examples-of-discrimination-against-christians-in-america-n1701966/page/full
Any questions?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
What do the 'needy' need with bibles (or korans, or books of momon, or zoroastian texts, or, well you must get it).
@honested @IReportYouWhineTheGreat This isn't Heaven, fascist.
@honested @IReportYouWhineTheGreat I can see how one would help you.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat @honested
Another question, since you asked, if jesus is 'lord' why does a minion have to negotiate a contract with the department of agriculture for TAXPAYER FINANCED food?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat @honested
So why doesn't the "lord' just provide the food?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
Yeah I have three.
Why do you want to spend tax dollars on this particular ministry?
Would you be as sanguine if it were a Muslim ministry, encouraging those poor people to choose Allah?
Finally, since Christians are literally dying in other countries for their faith, how can you possibly whine that making these people raise their own money is persecution. That's a slap in the face to millions of Christians who have actually suffered for their beliefs.
The Crazy R Us crowd are Back!
Good for the Chamber of Commerce. All of this just proves that money/profit trumps all else. Fortunately, for once profit is on the side of justice.
Why would Georgia legislators waste their time on these so-called "religious-liberty" bills (which really seem intended to give legal permission to discriminate against gay people)?
Different people hold differing views about gay marriage. I get that. But across the country, federal judges of all persuasions are applying the Supreme Court's Windsor decision as the basis to strike down laws that disallow gay marriage. It seems to me that a "religious liberty" bill enacted by the Georgia legislature wouldn't stand up against that. It's a futile gesture.
Why don't Georgia legislators spend their time on more productive work, like legislation to help improve transportation, education, water resources, infrastructure, health care and jobs?
@DS
Why don't Georgia legislators spend their time on more productive work, like legislation to help improve transportation, education, water resources, infrastructure, health care and jobs?
Because that would require them to actually govern -- in a competent fashion.
@DS
Well, in order to spend their time on necessary legislation, first most of the republiklans (and some of the Democrats) would require remedial training to come to grips with what had to be done, why and how to pay for it.
Actually working and eliminating pointless grandstanding would take the thrill out of it for the average 'big-fish-in-a-small-pond' legislator.
Hey, we may be on to something.
Let them reintroduce the bill, but add the following clause: If this bill is found to be unconstitutional , the legislators who introduced , sponsored and voted for it shall bear all costs for all court, lawyers, and any damages to the public in challenging or adhering to this law, . Enough is enough from the legislature passing bills that don't pass political or legal muster!
"And McKoon finds that frustrating."
Awwww. Poor baby knows his window of hate is closing fast as his demographic heads off to the great tea party in the sky.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: Look, this is a guy who six years ago had a worship service at a Denver stadium, being cheered by people while he was behind Greek columns, a few weeks earlier, he had been the hero of 200,000 Germans in Berlin. I still don't understand what that speech was about. Here was a man -- I mean, as Rich Lowry said earlier tonight, he was a citizen of the world, the most interesting, most sought after political rock star on the planet. And now he's got to hide under his desk until November. This is a total humiliation for him and every once in a while he can't take it so it pops out. This is his way of saying, I transcend the party, I'm bigger than the party, I still am, and I'm still here. I mean he's not going to go out and campaign in these states, obviously, but this is hard for him to take so I would extend a little bit of sympathy for the man. He's under stress.
Slam.
Dunk.
Whiney, with age comes wisdom in some cases. Apparently not yours. You are a dinosaur, ready for the Koch brothers to convert into fuel.
@NWGAL Let's shelve this conversation until November 5th, deviant.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat - Charles needs a LIFE! and Jesus.
@NWGAL Yes but they grow up. With age comes wisdom, deviant.
Whiney, waiting to see the results on November 5th is classic short term thinking. Young Republicans don't have an issue with gays. Your medieval position has a short shelf life.
Whiney, It must be so stressful being on the losing side of history. Poor little you.
@AuntieChrist @IReportYouWhineTheGreat satan, YAWN
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat Oh, you're sleepy? We thought you were dopey. But all you dwarfs' comments are all alike.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat krauthammer. YAWN.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat Hide under his desk? I think not. Besides Boehmer and McConnell are already there...there won't be any room!
Not that these religious liberty measures have anything to do with same-sex unions, supporters contend.
Of course it isn't.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Whistling past the graveyard links in 3...2...1....
@Kamchak
Wouldn't want to distract you from your homosexual issues, tulip.
@EdUktr
Isn't it almost time for your post about Michelle Nunn and illegals?
Just inquirin'.
Oh, I forgot, it's okay to discriminate against Christians.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
...hardcore galloway says what?
You are butthurt over hardcore?
Too funny!
@Kamchak @IReportYouWhineTheGreat hardcore galloway says what?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
... it's okay to discriminate against Christians.
Asserted by no one here but you, Andy-poo.
Just sayin'.
@CherokeeCounty @IReportYouWhineTheGreat Stay off my comment, you deviant.
@RoadScholar @IReportYouWhineTheGreat @CherokeeCounty Did you like that one, boot licker?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat @CherokeeCounty Oh you learned a new word. We can be just as childish...takes one to call one! Now back in your mom's basement!
@Kamchak @IReportYouWhineTheGreat Says the shrieking fascist me-me
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
christians are free to practice their superstitions.....
They are just now required to FOLLOW THE LAW and quit attempting to give those superstitions force of law.
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat @RoadScholar @CherokeeCounty Ow! That hurt!Is this the only way you have to satisfy yourself?
@IReportYouWhineTheGreat
If any real Christians show up - let us know.
Of course you - based on the vile nature of your posts - wouldn't have a clue how a real Christian should act anyway