Posted: 10:41 pm Friday, August 29th, 2014

A tale of two Marcos, and the little that can be said of ‘dream’ kids 

By Jim Galloway

Last Tuesday was a tale of two Marcos.

I wrote about the first Marco last week. He is a bright, 16-year-old son of illegal Mexican immigrants enrolled at DeKalb Early College Academy. A “dream” kid brought across the border when he was 8 years old, awarded provisional legal status while Congress allegedly sorts things out.

DECA is an academic boot camp for kids whose families have never sent anyone to a university. The program crams four years of high school into two. Then the students are shipped to Georgia Perimeter College. At age 18, they emerge with not only a high school diploma, but an associate’s degree.

It’s a good deal if you have the drive and intelligence.

This month, other members of Marco’s DECA class paid a nominal $300 or so for 16 weeks of instruction at GPC. His bill was closer to $5,000 because of the Board of Regents’ policy — adopted four years ago at the Legislature’s insistence — that students who are illegal immigrants pay out-of-state tuition.

Marco was able to come up with $2,000 from a summer job, which allowed him to take two classes — half of a standard course load. This struck me, and many of you, as a sinful waste of human potential. And thanks for those emails.

Apparently, Rob Watts, the interim president of Georgia Perimeter College, felt the same way. We’re told that, upon reading last week’s column, he asked his staff to find a path for Marco.

We do not know this for sure because Watts doesn’t want to talk about it. Instead, on Tuesday, GPC’s official spokeswoman called with a dry-as-dust statement that Marco had been assisted with private cash from the Georgia Perimeter College Fund, just as any other student might be.

Nothing to see here. Keep moving, she might have added.

The acknowledgement from Michael Thurmond, the superintendent of DeKalb County schools, was likewise vague: “I’d like to thank the Georgia Perimeter College Foundation for making it possible for one of our young scholars to continue his education without interruption.”

Neither institution used the phrase “illegal immigrant” or “undocumented” or “dream kid.”

It is a moot point with Thurmond. His public school system is required to educate all children, no questions asked. With Georgia Perimeter College, it is quite the opposite.

I’m guessing here, but in the current climate, a public Georgia university helping out a “dream” kid probably falls into the “no good deed goes unpunished” category.

And it was a good deed. Don’t take my word for it. Leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention have decreed that doing well by children who were carried into this country, with no say in the matter, is a moral mitzvah.

But an actual discussion about Marco and 20,000 or so kids and young adults like him in Georgia might have been considered an act of rebellion, and so the college chose to say as little as humanly possible.

Had GPC officialdom seen Gov. Nathan Deal at the University of Georgia later that evening, the decision to stay mum would have been confirmed. When confronted with the topic of “dream” kids by a group of students, the governor declared his hands tied. Dropping the out-of-state tuition requirement would prompt a Republican revolt, Deal implied.

“If it were overturned, it would be a huge concern for many citizens of our state,” the governor said.

Which brings us to the second Marco of this story. He is from Florida. His last name is Rubio, and he may be a Republican candidate for president of the United States in 2016.

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., right, listens to a speaker at the fourth annual "Faith and Freedom BBQ" hosted by U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan in Anderson, S.C., on Monday. AP/Chuck Burton

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., right, listens to a speaker at the fourth annual “Faith and Freedom BBQ” hosted by U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan in Anderson, S.C., on Monday. AP/Chuck Burton

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio was in Atlanta on Tuesday for some private meetings, but a day earlier had had his own public run-in with a group of “dream” kids, who chided him for throwing in the towel on immigration reform last year.

They had talked about their “right” to remain in this country, he said. “They’re getting terrible advice. It’s one thing to appeal to America’s morality — there is no right to come here illegally,” Rubio said.

Nonetheless, the Florida senator said he remains a champion for “dream” kids in the U.S. Senate, which is likely to be ruled by Republicans come January.

I asked Marco from Florida whether Marco from DeKalb County and other “dream” kids had anything to fear from a GOP-led Senate. Rubio said no and elaborated.

“Of all the group, I think they’re the ones that generate the most sympathy among the American public. And the American public will be willing to do something about it — I believe that,” the senator said. “But not until illegal immigration is under control. I’ve learned that the hard way in the last year and a half.”

So there you have it. We know that “dream” kids are regular human beings, just like us. We can extend them a hand in private if we choose.

We just can’t make it a public affair until — well, until.

80 comments
Stuffy
Stuffy

Rubio is a perfect Republican. "I got mine, so screw you."

honested
honested

Rubio is a Cuban.

No other group of immigrants in history has been the beneficiaries of American largesse in history.

No other group of immigrants is sitting on ready to go back and claim what is theirs (in their own warped viewpoint) than Cubans.

That rubio would willingly deny the humanity of another group of immigrants under duress speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of the modern republiklan party.

EdUktr
EdUktr

Thanks for reminding voters that Pres. Obama doesn't enforce our immigration laws and that Michelle Nunn would support him 100% if elected.

crankee-yankee
crankee-yankee

Does anyone else see the potential here for near-future political schmoozing by the GOP?


After years of opposition to immigration reform proposed by the Dems, the GOP gets control of the Senate.

Next, touting the "dream kids'" dilemma, they pass immigration reform legislation so as to court the Hispanic vote in 2016.

Neatly done.

partlycloudy
partlycloudy

Rubio is awful.  Charlie Crist is great.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

The saga of the two Marcos. The first, rubio was welcomed with open arms into this country and provided with every sort of government assistance the country could offer, from welfare to education grants, to housing assistance in the form of low interest, government backed loans. The right wing had no problem with it, even when half the state of FL became a province of Cuba, more Cuban in culture, language and loyalty than American. This was justified, in their minds, because they were fleeing the poverty and oppression of Castro. Of course the fact that they vote overwhelmingly republican has nothing to do with their acceptance, does it?

Our other Marco, who has striven for the American dream by doing exactly what the right claims all Americans should do, work hard, get educated, pull oneself up by one's bootstraps, and become a successful tax paying citizen, is scorned by the right, who would deny him his hard earned education, even though he too fled the oppression and poverty of his home country to live in freedom and live the American dream. What is maddening is the fact that Marco the senator, who was welcomed here, and given every opportunity to succeed by his adopted country, can rationalize denying that same opportunity to young Marco.

And finally, who is the better citizen, who should we be lauding, this young man who has worked hard, who wants to be a model citizen in his adopted home, or the corporate scum bag CEO who abandons this country that has given it so much, to flee to Ireland or Canada just so they do not have to pay for the benefits they have received, the benefits of infrastructure, defense, and educated work force that allowed that corporation to grow and thrive into a billion dollar entity.

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

@EdUktr 


Why don't Obama legalized millions of illegals like Reagan the Saint did?

Kamchak
Kamchak

@EdUktr 

...doesn't enforce our immigration laws...

Ronaldo Reaganendez' 1986 amnesty says, "What?"

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@crankee-yankee  Don't forget that the Hispanic "anchor babies," as citizens, will be able to vote within a couple of years. Do you think they will forget what the Republicans have put their parents and their people through now for at least 5 years so far?

Stuffy
Stuffy

@crankee-yankee It won't be as soon as 2016 but it will happen. Republicans are bad at math and it will take that long for them to understand that more of them than us means MORE of them than us in the voting booth as well.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@AuntieChrist Well, see Marco Rubio's family was accepted with open arms, because they came here, wit our permission. His family respected our laws, which is our culture.


Cuban immigrants make up a very very small percentage of the hispanic population. Out of the approximately 50,000 hispanics in this country, 34,000 of them come from MEXICO, and they are still coming, ILLEGALLY. 


MEXICAN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS have marched in our streets in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, WAVING THEIR MEXICAN FLAGS, and TELLING US, DEMANDING we better change our U.S. laws for them, after breaking them. They are not like us, not because of the way they look, but they do not believe or practice our culture of the RULE OF LAW. They DISRESPECT, and IGNORE it, and want us to IGNORE their crimes, against us. We will not.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@AuntieChrist Corporate Jesus -- the white guy (twitter handle, @CorporateJesus) -- would applaud the CEO and hate on the brown guy.

crankee-yankee
crankee-yankee

@OriginalProf Hopefully that will be the case. But we cannot count on kids to vote based on what happened to their parents. I'd like to see some research on that generation's political views.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@PamBarre Well, see Marco Rubio's family was accepted with open arms, because they came here, wit our permission.

What rationale can be adduced that justifies welcoming one group of immigrants, opening the treasury to assist them in every possible way imaginable, yet denies children brought here as infants the same opportunity. At best it is inconsistent, at worst outright hypocritical. As far as a foreign 'invasion' goes, I would consider the takeover of half of one of the most populous states in the country, where one can drive all day and not hear English spoken, an invasion of sorts.

Horace227
Horace227

@PamBarre @AuntieChrist 

Um, no.  Rubio's grandfather Pedro Victor Garcia was an illegal immigrant to the United States.

Try again stupid.

td1234
td1234

@ByteMe BS. The White man welcome the brown skinned Rubio and many other brown and black skinned people from Cuba, PR, Mexico, Central and South America. When people come here the right way (the legal way) then they are welcome. When they think they are above the law then they are not welcome. 

PamBarre
PamBarre

@ByteMe @AuntieChrist Actually, it is more likely Jesus was one of those so called "brown" people you are talking about. It is highly likely Jesus was not Caucasian. 


I would say, he was between slightly tan, to a darker tan. I am still trying to figure out what shade of tan, makes you a white person, or a "person of color". Bet, it is getting increasingly hard for parents of mixed children, to teach them what tribe they belong to. Either way, pretty disturbing.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @lithoniaguy @EdUktr And that earlier bipartisan Congress supported Reagan's measures and approved them, rather than stalling them for 2 years without allowing any vote to be taken.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@AuntieChrist @PamBarre I think, that is only in Miami. I have lived in Florida, for long periods, and I have heard English most of the time.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@Horace227 @PamBarre @AuntieChrist Even, if that is true, Americans would have less of a problem with a mere few thousand of ILLEGALS, but we have TENS OF MILLIONS. TENS OF MILLIONS is a FOREIGN INVASION, and must be treated as such. It will, when Americans take back our government. 



honested
honested

@td1234 @ByteMe 

So if a regime declares itself Communist and does nothing more than take control of property, those who flee should receive asylum.

But if the regime considers itself capitalist and provides conditions that threaten the life and well being of those who flee as well as their children, we consider them 'unwelcome'.

No wonder you people keep losing elections and public opinion.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@td1234 @ByteMe Most "hispanics" look WHITE, or slightly TANNED. It is beyond RACIST to continue to pretend they are a minority. The made up "hispanic" label was done on purpose to allow so called "hispanics" to claim their "minority privilege card", when their mythical "white privilege" one doesn't work for them. 

RACIST slightly tanned "Latinos" did not want to identify as white, black, or Asian on our U.S. Census, because they wanted to be classified as a "minority", so they could get all the perks that come with being a "minority", when they aren't. Now, Americans of Arab descent want to do the same thing on the next census. These RACISTS say they don't want SEGREGATION, but they do want to be SEGREGATED into their own RACIST TRIBES. 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @ByteMe 

Apparently they are welcome.  There are many white men (as well as others) hiring them all the time.


Some of the very people crying now about the illegals, especially since the economy went down in 07, are some of the very ones who directly or indirectly utilize illegal labor.


They got what they asked for even if they didn't ask for it in a direct way.


Their actions of hiring illegals or purchasing good and services that utilize illegal labor created and supports the demand. 



Bernie31
Bernie31

@PamBarre @ByteMe @AuntieChrist - Where is Tiny Dog? This what I have been tellin yer bout Georgia an dey Peoples heritage. In Pam's comment there is a code fer yer!

We don'ts like dem Mixed race folks...it makes em Nervous. They feel like dat wicked witch in de movie OZ!

Dey is MELTIN away......

uh..huh.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @ByteMe @AuntieChrist  Since the mother of Jesus at least was Semitic--if not the father-- then Jesus most likely looked much like a Semite of the Middle East: brownish skin, kinky hair, meaty solid nose, and short height. It's most unlikely that he looked as often portrayed: tall, blonde or light brown hair, blue eyes, aquiline nose.

ByteMe
ByteMe

@PamBarre Ah, the "I'm wrong, but I'm really right" response.  Good job!

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @td1234 @ByteMe
  Better take your grievance here to the U.S. Census Bureau, for they're the ones who classified Hispanics, or Latinos as they are known in the Southwest region of this country, as an ethnic group not a racial one. Some Hispanics look white if their racial group is White; some look Black (such as those in Mexico or Cuba whose ancestors were slaves); and some look Native if their ancestors were indigenous people.  And by the way, the Census also classifies "Arabs," or those from the Middle East, as White.

They're minority groups if their numbers are smaller than those of the majority group. 


It sounds as if you just resent these other groups being able to claim that they're white.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@PamBarre @td1234 @ByteMe 

Can you provide proof that what you are saying is true?

Op Eds don't count.  An official government document or excerpt from a government doc will suffice.

Thanks in advance.

 

PamBarre
PamBarre

@OriginalProf @PamBarre @ByteMe @AuntieChrist Which angers mean. They should be as accurate as possible, when portraying people in art, and movies, if they want to be considered, truly historical.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@OriginalProf Yet, they try to have it both ways. If we try to deport ILLEGAL ALIENS, who are mostly "hispanic", they "racially profile", this predominantly "white" country, as RACIST. That would imply, then, that the ILLEGAL HISPANIC ALIENS see themselves, as a RACE, and not an ethnic group. 


Then, when they are constantly saying that whites are an increasingly becoming a "minority", they count all blacks, Asians, hispanics, and now, maybe soon "Arab Americans" as one whole majority, but separately can still use their RACIST minority privilege cards. 


Plus, plus, don't forget when a "hispanic' man who is "brown" when we try to deport them, they only become a RACIST white guy, why they kill black young men like Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman? Is he "brown", or "white"?

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @OriginalProf  From the pictures I have seen of George Zimmerman he seems mixed Hispanic, Native, and White, for his mother is Peruvian--a country with many Native peoples. His skin may be pale, but his features seem Native.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@OriginalProf @PamBarre We do know, that the Liberal Media made him a "racist white guy", who was out hunting black young men to kill, when he came across Trayvon Martin.

PamBarre
PamBarre

@Nobody_Knows @PamBarre @td1234 @ByteMe No, it is far more important. It is what Racist Arab Americans want to segregate themselves, and then, scream that this country is RACIST, and still is trying to segregate everyone. It is a growing RACE WAR. Everyone dividing up into separate tribes, making separate demands, and most of their demands are, out in the open towards every white person. They don't want to identify as white, but they want to come to this predominantly white country, that was built on the blood of "majority" white guys, and "majority" white guys money. This really, is not going to work out, because white Americans are going to say, STOP in the next election, when you see more, and more white Americans stop voting for Democrats, and WE WILL STOP VOTING for "PEOPLE OF COLOR", not because we don't like their skin color, but they make it constantly obvious, they hate our white skin. So, why in the heck, would any white person continue to vote for people who hate us? We won't. 

Regardless of how many Racist "hispanics", and other Racist tribes of "people of color", there is always going to be a huge population of white people they will have to contend with. Constantly biting at the heals of over 212,000,000 people, because you don't like their white skin, but expect them to keep paying for everything, dying for everyone, and you want them to vote for you, is not going to work out well for those who hate white people.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@PamBarre @OriginalProf - The Media says "What?"


who said "They always get Away!" so I better git my Gun and Hunt a few of em down to teach them a Lesson. - Hey Georgie.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @OriginalProf  Zimmerman himself apparently sees himself as "white," for that is how he continually has termed himself. "Native," of course, is a racial category that all wish to avoid.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@PamBarre @Nobody_Knows @td1234 @ByteMe -Muh Folks want knw where was all dem white folks a Building and what was dey building. 

ALL know jest bout everythang in DC was built by dem Slaves....an ain't non dem was White. de Chinese did de railroad....so please share wit US.

what yer talkin bout....dem thangs in yer head don't count!

Bernie31
Bernie31

@PamBarre @Nobody_Knows @td1234 @ByteMe - Thank- yer Pam for sharing yer unique Brand of Racism with everyone this morning. We now know at least The Kluckers are using a woman now to promote dey Hateful ways in 2014.

Yep even it seems you guys have come into the 21st century. have yer updated yer Hoods & Sheets too?

While the Stuck on STUPID Party aka de GOP keeps tellin dey Jokes, pretending ta be christians and Now Hatin without hiding, but dey don't want yer to video tape or record em.

when yer do Dat, dey gits Mad.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@PamBarre @Nobody_Knows @td1234 @ByteMe This "predominantly white country, that was built on the blood of "majority" white guys" was ALSO built on the blood of "minority black guys"--known as slaves-- and "minority Asian guys"--who labored for the railroads.  Not to mention the blood of "minority Native guys" who were forced off their lands by the Americans and onto desolate, rocky reservations.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@PamBarre @Nobody_Knows @td1234 @ByteMe 

Is there a reason you still haven't backed up your original assertion?

You can either back up what comes out of your pie hole or you can't.  It's not that complicated.  

Deflections will only get you a failing grade.

Now back up what you claimed, Trasha Doherty, or run along bigot mama.