Posted: 10:15 am Monday, July 14th, 2014

Brian Kemp: Guns and run-off ballots won’t mix 

By Greg Bluestein, Daniel Malloy and Jim Galloway

Open-carry or concealed, Secretary of State Brian Kemp says Georgia law still bans firearms at polling stations. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com

Open-carry or concealed, Secretary of State Brian Kemp says Georgia law still bans firearms at polling stations. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com

 Over the weekend, the New York Times had a piece on the dispute in Alabama, where the state’s sheriffs association had urged the state’s 67 counties to ban the open carry of weapons at polling places, fearing that such a display would discourage some voters.

Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange has – with some exceptions – knocked that idea down. From the NYT:Your daily jolt on politics from the AJC's Political insider blog

The State Legislature has already said where guns cannot be openly displayed, he wrote, and polling places are not on the list.

That said, Mr. Strange added, there are a few no-gun locations that sometimes serve as polling places, such as high-security government buildings. And owners of private buildings like churches that often host voting stations always have the right to prohibit firearms.

Which prompted us to make a phone call this morning to Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. It seems the matter had already come up. Below is a June 25 note sent to county election officials throughout Georgia, in anticipation of the July 1 effective date of our new “guns everywhere” bill:

Our Office has been getting some questions as to how the Safe Carry Protection Act (HB 60) affects the law regarding firearms and polling places. The new law does not change any existing law regarding firearms in polling places.

The Georgia Code states, “No person except peace officers regularly employed by the federal, state, county, or municipal government, or certified security guards shall be permitted to carry firearms within 150 feet of any polling place.” O.C.G.A. § 21-2-413(i), see also O.C.G.A § 21-2-2(27) (defining “polling place”), O.C.G.A § 16-11-127(b)(7), O.C.G.A. § 16-11-127(d)(2)-(3).

We recommend checking with your county attorney to make sure your processes and procedures are in compliance with current law.

***

U.S. Rep. Paul Broun has endorsed pastor and talk radio hostJody Hice in the runoff to be his successor. Broun called the Zoller and Bryant show on WGAU (1340AM) this morning to offer his support.

Hice has been running as Broun’s logical heir as a fiery, outspoken conservative on social and fiscal issues. His campaign manager, Jordan Chinouth, was a longtime Broun aide.

This comes after Bryant, the radio guy, got into a little scrape with the Hice campaign. The radio host asked the campaign to stop sending out robocalls featuring Bryant’s voice discussing a mailer he got urging Democrats to vote for Hice’s runoff foe, Mike Collins. PeachPundit has all the details. Bryant reported that the Hice campaign promised to halt the calls.

***

We are no strangers to racial insults in the South. But perhaps because our world is so black-and-white, we often stumble when it comes to the subtleties of ethnic slurs.

Max Bacon, the mayor of Smyrna, was angered that no member of the Cobb County Board of Education attended his recent state-of-the-city speech, and so took after Republican school board incumbent Tim Stultz, who’s in a GOP runoff with challenger Susan Thayer.

Kathleen Blevins Angelucci, who chairs the Cobb school board, attempted to intercede on Stulz’ behalf. But the mayor of Smyrna — who is also Bob Barr’s man in Cobb County — was having none of it, according to Jon Gillooly of the Marietta Daily Journal:

“I’m just disappointed in Tim. If he’s not man enough to come talk to me, and he has to go through her, Angelucci, that does concern me more than anything now. What’s that woman’s name? Angelucci? I don’t like arguing with Polacks.”

This is where a broader world-view is in order. “Angelucci” is clearly a name of Italian extraction. Or “Eye-talian,” if you wish to give offense.

There are certain neighborhoods in Chicago, Newark or Cleveland that we can recommend if Bacon has a yen for self-education. The learning curve can  be steep — violently so. But it is effective.

***

Rep. Jack Kingston is ready to fight fire with fire. In a press gaggle after Sunday’s Atlanta Press Club debate on GPB, Kingston was hit with a question involving questionable contributions he received — and later returned — from a Palestinian felon. His pivot was to question who is behind the super PAC boosting Perdue on the airwaves. And then he dropped one name in particular.

Said Kingston:

“If we want to talk about contributors, what about Cal Turner. Cal Turner was his crony at Dollar General who was fined $1 million from the SEC. … Is Cal Turner one of his super PAC contributors? Should that money be returned if he is?”

Turner preceded Perdue as the head of Dollar General, a company his family helped found, and was ordered to pay $1 million in civil penalties as part of a settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission over flawed accounting between 1998 and 2001. He later received a $1 million lump sum retirement from the firm.

Turner is a prolific fundraiser for GOP causes, but records don’t show any direct contribution from him to the Perdue campaign.

***

After the debate, businessman David Perdue offered a rejoinder to Kingston’s attack, pitching him as “out-of-touch.” Said Perdue:

“At Dollar General, and the same thing at Reebok, those are big, massive, very complex turnarounds. And you don’t do that without listening to your customers, your employees, your stakeholders, to find solutions to big problems. And that’s what we did at Dollar General. We went out and found out what was important to help those families get from payday to payday. You don’t get that if you’re out of touch. I understood those people. They’re my people. I grew up with them. I never lost that.

“When you teach a child to read in a Head Start program, and teach them what a book looks like for the first time, and what a toothbrush is for the first time, that doesn’t leave you. I don’t care how many gates you live behind. I’m very proud of my success in business … Isn’t that the American dream we’re all trying to get back to?”

***

It’s not exactly a gaffe, but more than a few folks on Twitter took note of an unusual David Perdue opening where he compared the crowd to overheated bovines. We got hold of the video from the recent stop in Griffin, where he told the group: “I see all you guys look like cows – you found the shade.”

***

Climate change was a focus of a Sunday’s debate twixt the two GOP candidates for the coastal First District congressional seat — also sponsored by the Atlanta Press Club and aired on GPB.

State Sen. Buddy Carter, R-Pooler, and surgeon Bob Johnson had somewhat different takes. From Walter C. Jones at Morris News Service:

When a reporter raised the issue about climate change and how it could impact residents along the coast, Johnson said predicting the weather two days in the future is difficult and 20 years into the future is nearly impossible.

“I don’t think it’s a concern,” he said.

Carter said he didn’t want to ignore the possibility they might be at least partly correct.

“Certainly we have to pay attention to it. There’s no doubt about that,” he said. “But I do have reservations about how real it is.”

***

Bob Barr, locked in that brimstone-ish GOP runoff with Barry Loudermilk for the 11th District congressional seat, is attempting to generate an Ike-ish moment.

In 1952, Eisenhower promised to “go to Korea.” He didn’t say what he’d do when he got to where U.S. troops were facing down Chinese communists. But the mere statement seemed to suffice.

Barr, over the weekend, promised that – “when,” not if elected – he’ll visit the Texas border “within the month.”

***
We aren’t even close to finishing out the 2014 election season, and already the 2016 politicking is at hand.

The national grassroots organization Ready for Hillary will have a kick-off event at Park Tavern in Atlanta at 6 p.m. Thursday. Tickets are a symbolic $20.16

***

MarchBookTwocoverRep. John Lewis is out next year with the second installment of a graphic novel telling his remarkable life story. The Washington Post got an early look at the cover of “March: Book 2″ by Lewis, Andrew Aydin and Nate Powell.

It depicts the 1961 burning of a Freedom Riders bus in Anniston, Ala., and Lewis’ speech at the 1963 March on Washington:

“From a design standpoint, designer Chris Ross and I are composing all three book covers around two opposing elements, split in ways that shift along with the narrative,” Powell tells The Post’s Comic Riffs on Sunday.

“‘Book Two’ isn’t messing around — Congressman Lewis’s account can be intense and brutal, so we tried to call attention to the movement’s increased stakes, consequences and scope,” Powell continues. “Just as ‘Book One’s cover resembled a worn, secondhand text from the segregated schoolhouses of his youth, ‘Book Two’ suffers the singes and damage of that burning bus outside Anniston.”

***

David Leonhart of the New York Times is theorizing that the coming generation of college students may be more conservative than the current crop:

[T]hink about people who were born in 1998, the youngest eligible voters in the next presidential election. They are too young to remember much about the Bush years or the excitement surrounding the first Obama presidential campaign. They instead are coming of age with a Democratic president who often seems unable to fix the world’s problems.

“We’re in a period in which the federal government is simply not performing,” says Paul Taylor of the Pew Research Center, the author of a recent book on generational politics, “and that can’t be good for the Democrats.”

 

 

65 comments
Gunluvr
Gunluvr

That's gotta be changed. My gun rights are being infringed by not letting me carry into a polling place to vote.

MichaelHannigan
MichaelHannigan

(Dis)Honest says: " If it weren't off topic, you wouldn't be posting."

Information such as that from the AP doesn't get posted on the DJC and Jimmie and his two minions won't report on the either, so..

Anyway, I could say you wouldn't be reading it either if I didn't post it would you?

Ya think?

MichaelHannigan
MichaelHannigan

Kumchak says:

Of course, at the rate of $60,000 from the AFSCME (per year), it would take approximately 400 years to recoup the loss of the $24 million from the Koch Foundation.

And how long to wash the stink off the soul?

Just askin'. 

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What's your point, pointless soul?  Whatsa matter, the truth hurts?

Ya think?

WWTJD
WWTJD

Science to be made!


Poll places are gun free.  According to the theory of guns as deterrents, we should see a spike of significant criminal activity at the polling places.


If no spike occurs, the theory fails.



MichaelHannigan
MichaelHannigan

I realize this may be off subject, but I just had to share it with you all:

(From AP)

"A powerful government workers’ union will end its support for the United Negro College Fund after the group accepted $25 million from the conservative powerhouse Koch brothers and the college fund’s president appeared at a Koch event.

In a letter made public last Thursday, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees said it will no longer partner with or raise funds for the fund.

AFSCME gave between $50,000 and $60,000 annually to the UNCF for its AFSCME/UNCF Union Scholar Program, hich has served 94 students since 2003."

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After reading this,one can only hope and pray that President Michael Lomax of the UNCF will think through his decision to accept the 25 million dollars from the Koch Brothers Foundation.He realizes, or should, that the AFSCME has given between $50,000 and $60,000 annually to the UNCF for its AFSCME/UNCF Union Scholar Program, which has served 94 students since 2003. That’s a lot of money to lose. Why, at $60,000 per year for 10 years (2003-2013) does President Lomax really want to forgo the huge sum of $600,000? I think not. Of course, at the rate of $60,000 from the AFSCME (per year), it would take approximately 400 years to recoup the loss of the $24 million from the Koch Foundation.  President Lomax should think about that, indeed.

TheATLMac
TheATLMac

Right on time, the AJC's latest installment of the scary guns are bad crusade. Wish the paper and its editorial board would fixate on solving corrupt public officials, repeat offenders or the metro areas traffic woes. Guess those real problems don't bother them nearly as much as their gun-phobia. 

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

So far Alabama always leads the race into the silly season.  They have always had a problem with voting over there.  "Segregation now, segregation forever."  If anyone needs a gun to vote, that is a clear violation of the constitution.  Funny, how these gun nuts can only remember the Second Amendment.  I guess it is all that alcohol and marijuana.  Sad bunch of uneducated pot bellies.  They already have gun nuts trying to arrest each other - sometimes shooting off their own penises (that's got to hurt), and now shooting it out at the polls.  Guess they feel strongly about their candidates of choice.  I think they even managed to carry out a peaceful election in Syria and Afghanistan (sort of).  I guess we'll have to send these gun nuts over there to learn some manners.  Apparently, their southern mothers could not teach them anything. 

Jke
Jke

If there was something to the Kingston thing, we'd have heard more about it than we have to this point.  Old news that never was news.  And the misstatement " he received — and later returned — from a Palestinian felon" suggests that the story has no legs, as it has to be exaggerated to the point of being untrue. I don't see any news outlet  that has described the contribution as being directly from Satary, including the AJC.  Surely, "Palestinian felon" is not some sort of coded anti-Muslim remark, but rather a description of the fellow, rather than identifying him by his name and his past conviction.  

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

The republican party is made up of birthers, bigots, homophobes, and religious sexists. 

Highlander1
Highlander1

Why is it that all the major cities/states that have the most strict gun laws also have the largest percentage of gun violence against their (unarmed) populace? ...Criminals don't pay any attention to any laws, and certainly not any gun restrictions.

And the only problem I have with the picture above is that the woman shown is ignorant enough to carry her purse on the same side as her weapon.

EdUktr
EdUktr

Jim seems to be ignoring Sunday's Georgia School Superintendent debate, in which Democrat candidate Alisha Thomas Morgan continued to offer ideas the teachers' unions regard as anathema


The unions see Georgia charter schools, for instance, as an indirect threat to their revenues in other states where all teachers are forced to pay union dues—except those teaching at charters. Successful Georgia charter schools could lead to more charters elsewhere. So parents wanting something better than the failed status quo are just out of luck, as far as the union bosses are concerned.

Which is why you'll continue seeing Ms. Morgen getting the cold shoulder from Democrats and their media allies.

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

"Hice has been running as Broun’s logical heir.."

One idiot after another! Can't this districts ' voters see this? 

" Barr, over the weekend, promised that – “when,” not if elected – he’ll visit the Texas border “within the month.”"

And please stay there!  Or is it Texas's border with Oklahoma? Another photo op?


"They instead are coming of age with a Democratic president who often seems unable to fix the world’s problems."

And they can also see how subversive the repubs are! Against gay rights. Against women's rights. Against doing their job!

td1234
td1234

Nothing is sexier in this world than a woman packing heat. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Liberal AJC still "fascinated" by our gun law.

Liberal AJC loving the food fight between Kingston and Perdue, but will hate it when the big guns turn on Nunn and her felon fundraiser co-host.

DS
DS

“We’re in a period in which the federal government is simply not performing,” says Paul Taylor of the Pew Research Center, the author of a recent book on generational politics, “and that can’t be good for the Democrats.”

Taylor must think people are really dumb, not to realize exactly why the federal government isn't performing well.

Government shutdown, can't pass legislation to fund the VA, can't pass a jobs bill, took seven years to reauthorize the WRDA... How much evidence does one need?

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Gunluvr  Not to worry, no doubt the next session of the general assembly will correct this oversight. No way they are gonna let folks in Alabama out crazy the Empire State!

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@MichaelHannigan For someone who hasn't yet mastered the complexities of the "Reply" button, I guess it would be unfathomable to think they have the mental capacity to go to blogspot com to start their own blog, where they could keep us informed on these important topics.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@MichaelHannigan 

Whatsa matter, the truth hurts? 

The truth? No.

Splinters from pressure treated wood hurt like hell!

Bernie31
Bernie31

@WWTJD - The Historical record is clear about who is the most violent at the POLLS! Surely Past Acts committed in Mississippi & Alabama is clear on identifying the offending participants. They are only Older now. Poorer,Bad Health,Obese,and their Grandchildren do not visit or care for them unless there is an exchange of money to the grandchild.


Amazing how the Political Right ALWAYS know what JESUS would DO!

Kamchak
Kamchak

@MichaelHannigan 

Of course, at the rate of $60,000 from the AFSCME (per year), it would take approximately 400 years to recoup the loss of the $24 million from the Koch Foundation.

And how long to wash the stink off the soul?

Just askin'.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@TheATLMac Who knew that the omnipotent AJC editorial board had the power to solvie all the problems you mentioned. In a rational world, elected representatives would be hard at work solving those problems. Unfortunately we live in a state and country where "just say no," is the only platform required for electability.  God forbid the AJC editors recommend candidates who would actually work to fix the problems, Whenever they do, they are dismissed as 'the fish wrapper.' and the librul AJC, and worse.

Try voting for sane people instead of the likes of barr loudermouth, hice, and the other clowns who see a lack of guns in public places as the major problem confronting Amerka.

honested
honested

@TheATLMac

Real problem?

I've been voting for several decades and I don't remember ever encountering criminal activity at a polling place (although I have been more careful since 2003 when many of Georgian's rights were stolen).

DS
DS

@Jke, yes, you're probably right. I didn't think much of it at first either.

For me, the strangest part of the story was Kingston going to such great lengths to deny that he even knew him, despite photographic evidence from a fundraiser Satary held for Kingston. Why such elaborate lies? Made Kingston look dishonest, confused, or both.

MI550
MI550

@lithoniaguy yes it is and the Peach Pundit is their mouthpiece.  Sad to see Insider getting so much information from them

Bernie31
Bernie31

@EdUktr - Tracy Morgan is getting the Cold Shoulder because of her self important and self promotion of political positions on many topics. The biggest one was standing with GOVERNOR " YELLOW TEETH" on the disbanding of the Dekalb County School Board and aiding in him in his support of intentional disenfranchising and invalidating Tens of Thousands of Black & White Votes in Dekalb County. A Case built and based on LIES, HALF-Truths and innuendo. But such matters are No Big Thing for Tracy when she is running for Higher Office.


honested
honested

@EdUktr 

Georgia doesn't have teachers unions.

If you would gather information from any source other than the succession of paid liars on WSB radio over the last few decades, you might know that.

NWGAL
NWGAL

The word logical should never be applied to Broun or Hice.

honested
honested

@RoadScholar 

It is hard to tell if they are running for Congress, or auditioning for stand-up comedy!

PoliticalOutsider
PoliticalOutsider

td

Nice to know that you're into women, albeit trailer trash that seems to do it for you.

Shar1
Shar1

@td1234 No, td, a man who doesn't need to carry a gun is far, far sexier.

GaBlue
GaBlue

@td1234


Ewwww. Can you not find a more appropriate forum to discuss your proclivities? It's not like there's a shortage of such sites on the Internet. There's no reason for you to come here spouting that stuff.

honested
honested

@The_Centrist 

Just setting aside another clever intimidation technique planned by the Georgia gop.

honested
honested

@DS 

The author seems to forget that college students are probably intelligent enough to determine which party is directly and wholly responsible for Federal Government dysfunction and that they are unlikely to be consumers of the noise machine most responsible for misguidance.

td1234
td1234

@DS Why is it that a government that runs deficits every year and has a huge debt only needs more money to operate efficiently?  


Could it be that the government is to big to work?

honested
honested

@DS 

It just elicited his true character.

EdUktr
EdUktr

@honested @EdUktr

Er, the National Education Association states on their own website that they're a union: http://www.nea.org/home/18469.htmAnd they have members in every Georgia school district.

So I wonder who's ill-informed—them, or you?

Highlander1
Highlander1

@Shar1 @td1234  So you don't think any law enforcement officers are sexy? Or do you exclude them from your narrow minded statement? 

"I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy."

td1234
td1234

@RoadScholar True statement but she would not be packing then she would be pointing. 

coj
coj

@td1234 @DS Military expenditures? US spends more on the military industrial complex than the next eight countries combined spend.

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

@td1234 @DS   The US government had no debt the day George W, Bush took office.  Who do you think started all this?   The GOP, that's who.  They submitted their budget proposals to Congress to pay for the invasion of Iraq off-budget.  You seem to conveniently forget this fact, sport. 

honested
honested

@EdUktr 

Nobody except wrong-wing nuts in this state is unable to determine the difference between 'Professional Organizations' for teachers (which Georgia has) and 'Teachers Unions' (which Georgia does not)

Tell me, what 'union' negotiates contracts and working conditions for Georgia Teachers?

If Georgia had a teachers union, the nonsense of 'furloughs' would be replaced immediately by ADEQUATE REVENUE and the bills would get paid.

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

@td1234 Better not bring heat with you to the polls, td1234.  You just might be forcibly disarmed by the same jack-booted thugs you loathe.  Poetic justice.......

td1234
td1234

@The_Real_Centrist Do you understand the difference between debt and deficit spending is? If not or until you do I would highly recommend that you not post on this subject because it makes you look uninformed and unintelligent. 

NWGAL
NWGAL

Honested, you have explained this distinction multiple times. Some folks either are incapable of learning or like the attention they receive in being steadfastly wrong.

EdUktr
EdUktr

@honested @EdUktr

I'm sure the union would be happy to send their thugs around to your house—to "help" you reach a better understanding of just what unions do beyond collective bargaining.

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

@coj @td1234  If you won't answer, then I will.  The budget deficit was ZERO the day George W. Bush took office.

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

@td1234 What was the budget deficit the day that George W. Bush took office? Can you answer that question, sport?

honested
honested

@NWGAL 

The latter would certainly seem to apply in this case.

td1234
td1234

@The_Real_Centrist Thanks to Newt and the first Republican controlled HOR is more than 50 years. They had to drag Clinton on to the program kicking and screaming and cutting welfare balanced the budget. 

honested
honested

@td1234 @The_Real_Centrist 

You left out the most important part, in 1993, when much of the fantasy ray-gun tax cuts were eliminated and adequate revenue was collected.

Then in 2001, while hiding behind '9/11', the shrub administration reinstituted much of the ray-gun mythological revenue system and it has all been downhill since.

newt was just a purveyor of hot air during the entire affair.

By the way, when does the magic of supply side kick in?

td1234
td1234

@honested We have already been over this one many many times. Just because you want to count the supplemental budget produced in 2009 to GWB does not mean it is true. 

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Nothing doubled 'the day President Obama took office', except maybe the confidence level of the American People.

It took a lot of money to get us out of that gigantic hole that shrub dug for us. I hope we have the good sense not to fall into such a disaster again!