Posted: 9:00 am Sunday, July 13th, 2014

Three things to watch at today’s final GOP Senate debate 

By Greg Bluestein

It seemed there was a never-ending stream of debates and forums for the GOP candidates for Senate in the runup to the May primary. But today is the first and last one-on-one debate between the two Republican finalists, Rep. Jack Kingston and businessman David Perdue, before the July 22 runoff.

Here are three things to watch for at The Atlanta Press Club debate, which will be held in Atlanta at 4 p.m. and is to be televised three hours later.

1. How quickly will the gloves come off?  We’ve seen Kingston’s campaign depict Perdue as an out-of-touch executive and an outsider so extreme he’s become a renegade. We’ve watched as Perdue paints Kingston as a Washington fixture and king of earmarks. A taste of how quickly a candidate goes on the offensive can speak volumes about how they see their standing. Look for Perdue, who says he wants his campaign to have an underdog feel regardless of polls showing him gaining on Kingston, to come out swinging.

2. Will post-primary developments loom large? The unprecedented nine-week stretch between the primary and the runoff has given us media types added time to scrutinize the candidates. We’ll be watching to see how Perdue plans to use the AJC’s report that Kingston took potentially illegal contributions funneled through a convicted felon, and that he ignored warnings from a GOP attorney to return the money. The Savannah Republican has some fresh ammo, too, including an AJC report that raised questions about a conflict of interest while Perdue was serving on the Georgia Ports Authority board.

3. Will we hear a big tent appeal? Whoever emerges next week faces Democrat Michelle Nunn, who has a well-financed campaign and likely an incoming tide of outside money in her favor. Kingston and Perdue both know they have to have one eye on next week’s contest and another on November. Whether they use this debate to appeal to an audience  beyond the 10 percent or so who will vote in the runoff could be interesting. So will any mention of someone who has so far been absent from much of the debate: Sen. Saxby Chambliss, the retiring Republican incumbent whose negotiations with Democrats is upheld by Nunn as a model of bipartisanship.

86 comments
NWGAL
NWGAL

Perdue won the debate narrowly. Kingston sounded whiney and Perdue had more verve. Both said about the same thing so presentation became more important than substance.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

It has been so long (thanks Eric With Holder), since the primary, I'm surprised they aren't both nursing home residents by now.  Maybe they should reintroduce themselves and state again what their positions are, since most of us have moved on.

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

Both candidates will try to prove he is  more racist, sexist and homophobic in the debate than his opponent.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

Let these two punch themselves out ('Rope a Dope").  Michelle is waiting ringside, fresh, trained, and with a  very nice left jab and right upper cut.  Some tired old rich guy is going down for the count. 

Capt Tom
Capt Tom

What about the Collins-Hice debate? Can't wait for Hice to make sure any womenfolk in attendance without their husbands at least have his permission to be there.

Kamchak
Kamchak

11:30 on a Sunday morning and some people aren't in church.

They must worship Satan.

DS
DS

Smart campaigns usually do a good cop/bad cop thing, where they have their candidates be the good cop and stay positive while some outsider does all the mudslinging. That way, the candidate doesn't turn off voters with his petulant whining. So I wouldn't be surprised if Kingston and Perdue try to stay generally positive, with just a few carefully chosen criticisms of their opponent sprinkled in. But if they would rather sling mud in this debate, by all means, have at it.

InsiderAdvantage and Magellan both configured their poll demographics assuming a very small turnout of mostly old, white, conservative voters. If both Kingston and Perdue believe the same, then I don't think we'll see a big tent appeal in this debate. Instead, they'll probably stay hard right, "true conservative" and all that, until July 23, when the winner will try to veer sharply to the center.

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

The choice is between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.  And in the Republican party, Dum wins every time. 

JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

I know what to expect - a few white men in suits trying their best to out-crazy each other...theater of the absurd, for sure.


No plans for a better future, just poison fodder for the uninformed and paranoid constituency...a perfect game plan for the Radical Right Wing and the oh-so easily influenced, lazy voters they preach to.

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

Not one word as to their vision for Georgia and the US? Just mudslinging?

The_Real_Centrist
The_Real_Centrist

@EdUktr    Ask Eric Cantor about the reliability of polls in predicting election results.  The only poll hat counts is the one in November, sport.


From Wikipedia:      

In the June 10, 2014, Republican primary, despite internal campaign polls placing him 30 points ahead of his opponent and his spending advantage (Cantor outspent Brat 40 to 1),Cantor lost to Tea Party challenger Dave Brat in a major upset. This made him the first sitting House majority leader to lose a primary since the position was created in 1899.  His loss at the primary was described by the Los Angeles Times as “one of the greatest political upsets of modern times.”

Following his primary defeat, Cantor announced his resignation as House Majority Leader effective July 31,but said he would serve out his term as Representative.

honested
honested

@NWGAL 

I expected that.

But was it funny?

Did they exemplify the clueless, incompetent party they represent and demonstrate the absolute lack of vision for any improvements in America they are paid to produce?

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

@Ralph-43  Nun will get swamped in the general election. Shes running as an apologist for Democrats instead of a liberal Democrat. Shes silent on ACA, Gay marriage, immigration etc.

td1234
td1234

@Ralph-43 So you are predicting Nunn will win in the general election? 

td1234
td1234

@Capt Tom Hice will make a very good Representative from Georgia. 

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak You do understand that most Baptist churches have two services now? Traditional that begins at 8:30 or 9:00 on Sunday morning and a more contemporary service that begins at 11:00? 


Of course you did not know this because you are a heathen. I am sure your conservative mother prays for your soul and that you would turn from your wicked ways and get right with God every night.  

td1234
td1234

@DS What have you seen from either campaign that would be considered "far right"? I have seen the commercials and all I have heard is "proven business leader". "voted to cut taxes", voted to balance budget" and "voted to cut spending". Are these far right points? 

td1234
td1234

@JohnBoy10 Do you call less taxes, less spending and the philosophy of running government like a business "radical right wing"? 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@RoadScholar - This is a Democratic Party based blog, and only is interested in the mudslinging.  Both of these candidates conservative views are similar and well known.  The liberal media and their ads are now going to focus on the small differences.

EdUktr
EdUktr

@The_Real_Centrist @EdUktr

Even YOU look as though you don't believe that! But I'll pass along your concerns to the analysts at the Huffington Post.

EdUktr
EdUktr

@honested @NWGAL

(... i.e., did either of them seriously threaten our welfare checks?)

honested
honested

@td1234 @Capt Tom 

If only the dullards are allowed to vote, your ridiculous prediction could come true.

Why do you prefer incompetence to 'representation'?

Kamchak
Kamchak

@JohnBoy10 

...but for the rest of us...

Who was it exactly, that granted you the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?

Just askin'.

Kamchak
Kamchak

The guilty dog barks first/loudest.

Just sayin', sport.

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@td1234 @DS I think Kingston's idea to make children from poor families work for their school lunch is pretty far right wing.

honested
honested

@td1234 @DS 

I guess that would require some clarification of 'proven business leader' and some proof that 'cutting taxes' has derived benefit to the broader majority of Georgians.

Cutting spending is laughable when we have the most expensive military in the universe to no apparent benefit.

I think all three concepts are losers for most of us.

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@The_Centrist @RoadScholar Making excuses? Again? I lean Democrat, but also vote for repubs that are sane and have the American peoples future in their positions...all Americans. So we are only interested in mudslinging? He!! no! I want well thought out solutions and positive actions. So far these two have only talked about how much more conservative they are.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@The_Centrist @RoadScholar The liberal media is justified in reporting the small minded differences between their candidates.  Liberal ads are focusing on the conservative views that are outside the views of the majority of Americans.  Meanwhile, the candidates are slinging mud with their rhetoric and ads about small minded issues like: 1. tax returns rather than tax reform; 2.  Pro-life rather than healthcare cost reform; 3. Pledge to a flag rather than immigration reform; 4. Prayer in schools rather than education reform; 5. Obama is a socialist Muslum rather than mental health and assault weapon reform. 6. Ten Commandments in public buildings, rather than repairing and expanding our infrastructure.

honested
honested

@The_Centrist @RoadScholar 

I've been watching their pronouncements for months and the most memorable were kingston's kids talking about what a cheaps!t he is and perdue walking through an empty field in a denim jacket.

So what would they do?

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@The_Centrist @RoadScholar 

Yet you come here to whine all the time.

Says much more about you than it does about the blog.

Do you still count all the comments and put them into political categories?

bwhahaahhahha

honested
honested

@EdUktr 

I'm glad that HP is working to keep you guys hopes up.


honested
honested

@EdUktr 

Do you have a master's degree in missing the point?

There has not been a point in the last 35 years when I have not been fully employed (most of those employing others as well).

Your misunderstanding of appropriate philosophies of Civilization will leave you with the same gasping expression we saw on the day after the 2012 election.

Simply not voting the interests of the .01% do not constitute anything whatsoever to do with 'welfare checks'!

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak Kams mother: Please dear Lord touch and convict Kam's soul and make him turn from his wicked ways and turn to you and become a good man. 

td1234
td1234

@NOlongerRepublican I actually do not think that is such a bad idea. It is a good life lesson to all children that nothing in life is for free. 

td1234
td1234

@RoadScholar You are one of the minority that wants well thought out debates. Mudslinging works in an election or the politicians would not do it. Most citizens do not even care about who is running the country but they think they have to vote so they listen to the negative about candidates and vote for the one that sounds the least negative. 


Now this does not fit the 25 to 30% on each side of the political spectrum that will vote party no matter whom the candidate is. 

td1234
td1234

@honested Less taxes, less government spending and supporting the military. Give the people more money in their pockets and let them spend it on what they fill is best. 

td1234
td1234

@honested Most of those .01% you are talking about are Democrats. 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Kamchak 

From the blogger who claimed on this very blog he was blogging during church.

You just go for show.......... that is when you go

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

What has that misguided attempt at governance from the House done to improve life in America over the last 4 years?

And where have they provided us with ANY suggestions of what they would do to change any of Congressional republicans failed policies?

td1234
td1234

@RoadScholar I treat people the exact same way they treat me either on this blog or in real life. 


If you want an intellectual debate then I will give be more than happy to comply. If you want to act like a butthead then I will treat you like one. 

td1234
td1234

@honested We are less in debt as a nation and have money money in our pocket than we would have if queen Nancy had continued to be in charge of the house. 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

Lost soul.............

LOLOLOLOLOL

This from the Lying Blogging Baptist


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@td1234 @honested you don't know that...if we had a Democratic Congress we would have gotten a jobs bill, a veterans bill, a minimum wage increase, all of which would have led to increased sales, increased productivity and a stronger America. Sitting and doing nothing while the rest of the world passes us by does no one but our competition any good. Use your brain.

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows @td1234 Well if you are not a lost soul then come on out on the blog and make a profession of faith. Tell us how much you love Jesus and that he is your personal Lord and savior. 


I shall be waiting patently. 

td1234
td1234

@NOlongerRepublican That is if you believe government should run the economy and is the answer to our problems. 


honested
honested

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

I profess to be free from 'faith'. 

What does that have to do with Government.

After all this is the United States, where our founding document guarantees freedom from religion.

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows Thanks for proven your soul is lost and you do not know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior. I will say a prayer that you come and find him before it is to late. 

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows TD I am a born again Christian and want absolutely nothing to do with the Jesus you represent...hate, anger, bigotry, judging other people, belittling the poor and anyone who disagrees with you...I could go on. But those are not the traits of Jesus. So I want nothing to do with what you preach.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

From the Lying Blogging Baptist

Lost soul...........

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!