Posted: 3:21 pm Saturday, July 12th, 2014

Mailer urges Democrats to cross over for Mike Collins in GA-10 

By Daniel Malloy

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Could Georgia’s 10th Congressional District runoff take a page from the Mississippi U.S. Senate race?

Tim Bryant spoke on the radio the other day about a mailer he received urging Democrats to vote for trucking executive Mike Collins in the Republican runoff in the race to replace U.S. Rep. Paul Broun. Collins is running against minister Jody Hice, whose comments about Islam, women and gays have caused a stir.

A reader sent us the mailer itself, which we present above. It was attached to an absentee ballot application. The argument:

“Due to the gerrymandering of our Congressional district, it is nearly impossible for a Democrat to get elected. … We, as citizens of the 10th Congressional District, cannot afford a Congressman like Jody Hice. Why you ask? Here are just a few reasons why Hice is too radical to represent us in Washington.”

The mailer does not say who paid for it — and the only reported outside spending on mailers in the race has been by a gun rights group for Hice — so we can’t say for sure it is the Democrats. Hice was willing to assume in a fundraising appeal:

“Democrats are trying to do in Georgia what they did in Mississippi. We must not allow liberals to decide another Republican election.”

He’s referring to the Thad Cochran-Chris McDaniel GOP runoff last month, in which crossover votes from black Democrats appeared to provide the incumbent senator’s slim margin of victory.

57 comments
lanzarsmith
lanzarsmith

The "Democrats for Collins" mailer was a counterfeit. The letter was only sent to 2 or 3 folks....the "Mississippi Strategy" allegations made against the Collins Campaign were false.

StanJester
StanJester

The AJC and Herman Cain say that crossovers in the runoff are against the rules

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/what-you-need-to-know-about-georgias-runoff-electi/ngj9b/


As a voter, you must stick with the party ballot you choose for the main primary (in other words, you can’t cast a Democratic ballot in the main primary and then vote in a Republican runoff). However, if you did not vote in the primary or if you originally picked a nonpartisan ballot, you may still vote in the runoff and pick the party ballot of your choice.

coj
coj

The last time I did this, the 10th elected Paul Broun. Boy, that was a big mistake. But this time around Hice is the "Paul Broun" clone. Hope Collins doesn't turn out worse than Hice's bag of right wing religious extremism.

Joeleejohnson
Joeleejohnson

CI in 'Nam would love it----Or maybe the Colonel is here & working for Jody.

ddooley
ddooley

It is humorous that staff members of the Collins campaign are trying to say Jody Hice did this.


I strongly believe someone affiliated either directly or indirectly associated with the Collins campaign did this. If Democrats did sent it, then it is easily spun to backfire on them by asking Republican voters if they want Obama Democrats picking the nominee.


 Heck if it were the Dems idea at least they would sending a message it is ok to vote Republican. Would be harder for them to keep talking about evil, racist Republicans.That was not an issue. The issue is that I believe someone that wanted Collins to win came up with using the strategy Cochran and company used in Mississippi. Probably some lower level person that saw their chance to make in the big leagues and move ahead.


The mail piece trashed conservatism and those that have Christian beliefs. It was an attack on religion and conservatism to get elected. Considering the fact Paul Broun received 69% of the vote in GOP Primary, a big majority of Republicans in the 10th also hold those same beliefs. I am a preachers kid and I listened to my Dad preach many times the very same points mentioned in the illegal mail piece and he is not racist. There are many African American preachers that preach the same points.

Here is why:


1. Whoever sent the flyer was not expecting the illegal mail piece to come to light. It was just sent to those that voted in the Democratic primary.

2. If the Hice campaign had been responsible for it, he would have sent it to Republican voters. The last thing he would want to do is to encourage African American Democrats to vote in the GOP Primary. He would know they would vote against him. Hice is extremely intelligent.

3. If Democrats had been responsible for the mail piece, they would have put the name of the group proudly. If they had money to send out the mail piece, they would be well aware of election law.

4. I don’t believe some of the points used in the mail piece would be what the Dems would have used-not in Georgia. The Dems wouldn’t have used the one talking about the 1st Amendment. The Dems would have included something about rolling back food stamps and taking away ObamaCare. Something fiscal in nature. The mail piece would have included the part about Gays because that was one of the target audience..

This mail piece is only going to get bigger and it won’t go away.

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

being a bigot is a good thing in the gop...Hice is a homophobic bigot which will serve him well in the election. if he puts on his sheet he will win n a landslide


ddooley
ddooley

Whoever sent this is in violation of Federal Law and Georgia law. The mail piece does not identify who sent it.

I don't believe a Democrat sent it. If they were able to raise enough money to send it then they would know election law and would have put the group name. This mail piece came from someone willing to violate federal election law to keep their identity a secret and blame Democrats for it.


CaptTom
CaptTom

The same Tim Bryant who had to contact the Hice campaign yesterday for using his voice (without permission) in a robocall. Hice is just another Broun.....hypocritical nutjob. 

ChrisCross
ChrisCross

Just remember, GOP goons who are doing this - karma is undefeated.  When your candidates lose the general election due to lying cheating tactics like this, in part because folks like me vote for Michelle Nunn, I guess you can take solace in the fact that you kept a doddering old fool like Thad Cochran in the Senate for 6 more years so that he can do absolutely nothing besides redirect taxpayer money to your cronies.

SouthGeorgiareader
SouthGeorgiareader

The dysfunction of state and national politics is a daily headline.  Maybe the recent court decision about gerrymandering in Florida will cause some responsible Georgian to take the lead in our state and ask for a review of our redistricting.  It's sad that few responsible folks will run---only the radicals stir the pot now.

WeRunTheEast
WeRunTheEast

This mailer is huge for Hice. As most good conservatives know, do the opposite of what the AJC or other liberals tell you to do, and great results follow. I voted for Collins in primary (liked his business experience, meeting payroll, EARNING a profit, things govt. employees and politicians know nothing about), but may vote for Hice in runoff. Makers vs Takers, which are you?

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

So the new GOP strategy can be summed up as:


I need Dems to help me get elected and yes I will screw them every chance I get to Washington.

But at least I'll use lube and a condom.  The other guy won't.

td1234
td1234

No big deal. A Republican is going to win the district no matter which one wins the primary. 


I crossed over in the primaries through the 80's and 90's since I knew a Democrat was going to win every statewide office in the state to make sure I voted for the most conservative person. This is the way our system is set up and as long as it is fair for all concerned then so be it. 


If you do not like the system then talk to your state legislators to change the system. 

notagain
notagain

That would be akin to blasphemey.

honested
honested

As long as the write-in or otherwise vote for a Democrat in November, no big whoop.

EdUktr
EdUktr

Of course, the real story here is Jim joining in to promote a crossover vote—including printing the full text of the mailer.

Sent to him by "a reader," Jim says.

Starik
Starik

If we had an independent commission drawing congressional districts we wouldn't have this problem - but we do, and because we can crossover there's some hope for moderation in this very immoderate State.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Makes sense to me. I plan to vote for the crazy Bob Barr just to keep the even more odious Loudermilk out of office. 

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

Haven't followed this race closely because I don't live in that district, but wow. What I am learning about HIce is scary. And I thought you couldn't get any wackier than Broun, but apparently this district can find the kookiest of the kooks for their congressmen. Scary to think that the state's flagship university is in this district and someone like Hice (or Broun) is the voice in Congress. I hope whoever behind the fliers has more money to get the word out. Geez

NWGAL
NWGAL

Defeating Hice sounds like a good step toward sanity. A baby step, but a step none the less.

RadicalRuralDem
RadicalRuralDem

@ddooley  "I strongly believe someone affiliated either directly or indirectly associated with the Collins campaign did this. If Democrats did sent it, then it is easily spun to backfire on them by asking Republican voters if they want Obama Democrats picking the nominee."

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Except for the fact that there are two completely different camps in the GOP in GA-10: the ones who support a (relatively) reasonable, business-minded conservative who will have respect in Washington and the ability to get things done, and those who support a theocratic nominee like Hice. 

The Republicans who are voting for Collins won't buck and vote for Hice just because Democrats are being asked to do so; in fact, I'm sure they'll appreciate the help - just like they did in Mississippi. Only the Tea Partiers will whine about this, and guess who they're all already voting for? 

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"It is humorous that staff members of the Collins campaign are trying to say Jody Hice did this."

And of course it was sent by Collins; Hice certainly wouldn't have done this (it only hurts him) and Democrats in GA-10 don't have enough of an organized apparatus/money to send out much of anything these days. I suppose one wealthy Dem could have been behind it, but it's doubtful. If Collins' campaign is suggesting Hice sent it, then that's more or less all you need to know, because that would be a ridiculous statement

Hankster The spankster
Hankster The spankster

@lithoniaguy You stay busy calling GOP bigots. Where is the degree program for being a "free Speech policeman". Saying it over and over does'nt make it so and who the F. cares why you think you are relevant by the Left and thereby  deciding racism here and racism there. Why not focus on the real Racism which is the intolerance of Blacks and the fashionable trend of one sided blaming and bullying  for all that ails our society.  

RadicalRuralDem
RadicalRuralDem

@ddooley They're not in violation of Georgia law, but probably Federal law. In Georgia, state/local candidates and committees don't have to disclose who paid for certain items like mailers, yard signs, T-shirts, printed handouts, etc. They do have to do so on robo-calls, radio and TV, though (FCC stuff, basically). Candidates/committees' only disclosure requirements for the first set of items mentioned is the itemized/non-itemized disclosure on campaign finance reports.

td1234
td1234

@ChrisCross How is Nunn going to win? Can you please show us how she is going to get more black turnout than Obama did two years ago? Can you please show us which groups of Romeny voters are going to flip and vote for Nunn? 


Obama lost by 8 points in Georgia 2 years ago and Barnes lost by 10 points to Deal 4 years ago so please tell us all how 8 to 10% of the voters have suddenly changed their minds and will now vote for Nunn to give Obama a victory? 

td1234
td1234

@SouthGeorgiareader Georgia is covered under the Civil rights act and it says plainly that they can not lessen black majority districts because it could have negative impacts on black elected officials. 


Without substantial black votes in Georgia then white Democrats are NOT going to win. 

honested
honested

@SouthGeorgiareader 

Hey, mitch sebaugh had the chance to do the right thing.

Instead, he had his eye on a better paying State gig.

honested
honested

@WeRunTheEast 

Is it simply that voters in the 10th don't really care if they have intelligent, effective representation in Congress?

Instead do they prefer a pompous rube able to regurgitate as many wrong wing talking points as possible in one sentence?

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@WeRunTheEast How do you know "liberals" sent the flyer? Like you knew UGA was going to win NC's for over the past 20 years? Won the lottery lately? Your crystal ball is faulty , at best! Just maybe some not "Batsh!t" crazy repubs/conservatives did it? Eh?

honested
honested

@LookbeforeIleap 

Pretty much.

Remember when people running for Federal Offices had some degree of job qualification?

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

@td1234 


Hice being a homophobic bigot should be a plus in the racist gop

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@td1234 Yeah td, as long as they have an R after their name it's ok to vote for anyone, even when they are homophobic, religiously biased, and just plain radical? If elected, Hice will be just as effective as Broun.....Please tell me his huge accomplishments.

honested
honested

@td1234 

Which will change when people realize that redistricting in 2012 gamed to system to allow the most incompetent candidates to win based on their adherence to incoherent policies.

Tiny dog, I'm still waiting for you do provide some data on conserrrrrrvative policies that have improved America for everyone.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@EdUktr 

Of course, the real story here is Jim joining in to promote a crossover vote...

 The real story here is that Daniel Malloy wrote this piece and not Jim.

First day of that brand new ESL class, EdUktionless-poo?

Just askin'.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@EdUktr 

Rush Limbaugh's urging Republicans to vote in the 08 Democrat Primary (Operation Chaos he called it) says "WHAT?"


Now STFU you whiny baby

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty Barr or Loudermilk, it does not matter. either will make a very good conservative Representative in DC representing a Conservative district. 

td1234
td1234

@NOlongerRepublican A district should be allowed to elected anyone (no matter how crazy) as long as the person is qualified to run. 


Heck, Georgia had McKinney representing a district for years and now Hank "Guam will tip over" Johnson is a representative. These two are more crazy than anyone the Republicans have ever run for office. 

RadicalRuralDem
RadicalRuralDem

@Hankster The spankster Shhh, "reverse racism" isn't a real thing

td1234
td1234

@honested The unintended consequences of the Civil rights act is the reason why the districts either belong to blacks or conservative whites. 


Let us take Mass. as an example of where the Civil rights act does not reach. All their congressmen are white liberal democrats while 13 or so % is black and 40% are Republicans and yet Zero Republicans and zero blacks represent the state.  


Low taxes, fewer government programs, less government intervention are all policies Republicans have given us that has improved America. Ooops, almost forgot the best military the world has ever seen. 



EdUktr
EdUktr

@Kamchak @EdUktr

It's not so close to your bedtime, adolescent one, that you can be excused for missing Jim Galloway's name at the top of the column. 

DS
DS

@td1234  I'll agree that McKinney was way out there, but Johnson isn't. He's actually been busy sponsoring and cosponsoring legislation and helping to get things done in his district. You know, Congress stuff. 

I think it's hilarious that he told a joke about Guam tipping over and some people didn't get it. It reminds me of Mark Twain's book, Pudd'nhead Wilson, in which the title character arrives in a small town, steps off the train, hears a dog barking, and makes a humorous remark: "I wish I owned half that dog, 'cause I'd kill my half." The townspeople didn't get that it was supposed to be A JOKE, and so they starting calling him a "pudd'nhead." 

“What did he reckon would become of the other half if he killed his half? Do you reckon he thought it would live?” 

I guess we need a few more Mark Twains these days.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@td1234 @NOlongerRepublican Representing GA, Paul Broun, Tom Price and Phil Gingrey.  All doctors that no one in their right mind would go to them for medical advice, or any thing else for that matter.  There are too many at the national to count, but take your pick between Louis Gohmert or Steve King to start the list.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Heck, Georgia had McKinney representing a district for years and now Hank "Guam will tip over" Johnson is a representative. 

Neal "Had Sex With A Mule" Horsley says, "What?"

Kamchak
Kamchak

@EdUktr 

Sent to him by "a reader," Jim says.

To reiterate, "Jim says".

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

First day of that brand new remedial reading comprehension class,EdUktionless-poo?

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@EdUktr 

Damn son.  You could have saved yourself a comment if that's the best you could muster.

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!