Posted: 9:53 pm Monday, July 7th, 2014

There may be buses: Bob Barr declares immigration emergency in Georgia 

By Jim Galloway

People arrive to hear city, county and federal officials speak about a plan to process immigrants detained in Texas at the Murrieta, Cal., U.S. Border Patrol facility, at the Murrieta Mesa High School auditorium last week. AP/The Press-Enterprise/Terry Pierson

People arrive to hear city, county and federal officials speak about a plan to process immigrants detained in Texas at the Murrieta, Cal., U.S. Border Patrol facility, at the Murrieta Mesa High School auditorium last week. AP/The Press-Enterprise/Terry Pierson

If you pay any attention to politics, you know of last week’s protests that greeted 140 undocumented women and children, seized at the U.S. border, who were sent to Murrietta, Cal., to ease an overcrowded Texas facility.

Angry residents greeted a bus as it pulled into town, blocking its entry. Today’s dispatch from the Associated Press:

The White House said Monday that most unaccompanied children arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border are unlikely to qualify for humanitarian relief that would prevent them from being sent back to their home countries.

The pointed warning came as the White House finalized a spending request to Congress detailing the additional resources President Barack Obama wants in order to hire more immigration judges and open additional detention facilities to deal with the border crisis. White House officials said they planned to send the more than $2 billion request to lawmakers on Tuesday.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said that while the administration will allow the immigration review process to take place, officials so far don’t expect many of the children arriving at the border to be able to stay in the U.S.

“It’s unlikely that most of these kids will qualify for humanitarian relief,” Earnest said. “It means they will not have a legal basis for remaining in this country and will be returned.”

Nonetheless, Bob Barr, a former member of Congress locked in a tight Republican runoff with former Barry Loudermilk of Cassville for the 11th District congressional seat, has declared an immigration emergency in Georgia. From the press release:

“As tens of thousands of illegals continue streaming across our southern border, citizens of Georgia are increasingly concerned that the Obama Administration is planning to surreptitiously ship many to locations in our state; or that our government may already have begun doing so under cloak of secrecy.

“Questions from this campaign to federal agencies inquiring whether shipments of these illegals are planned for Georgia – or whether such shipments may already be underway – have been met with silence or refusals to provide meaningful answers. Our questions have been prompted by accounts stating that Georgia is in fact a recipient state for some of these illegals…..

“I call on Governor Nathan Deal, Senators Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss and our delegation to the House of Representatives to demand that President Obama give appropriate and advance notice if he has plans to ship any illegals to Georgia and what the exact details are. I also urge Governor Deal to file action in federal court to enjoin the Department of Homeland Security or any other federal agency from entering our state to deposit busloads of illegals, and to take other action if necessary to prevent such entry.”

The AJC’s Jeremy Redmon queried the Barr campaign – specifically, campaign manager and son Derek Barr – for actual evidence of dangerous women and children from the outer reaches of Guatemala, dispatched to subvert the wisdom and justice, constitutionally dispensed in moderation, of our fair state. Said Derek Barr:

“Our office contacted both agencies in the Obama Administration and Members of the Georgia Congressional Delegation. One office we did speak with confirmed some of these illegals had already arrived in Georgia, and there are likely more on the way. Our source couldn’t confirm where they would be shipping them to once in the state.

“Additionally, the NBC Nightly News reported Saturday night that some illegals are on their way to Georgia. From Maryland, Indiana, Pennsylvania, to California communities have received unannounced shipments of these illegals. The state and local taxpayers are left paying the bills.

“Bob Barr is demonstrating leadership by acting before Georgia receives a surprise busload of these illegals.”

And because of this, there will be no Pearl Harbor in Georgia tonight. Sleep easy, dear reader.

170 comments
Jke
Jke

162 years ago the American Southwest was Mexico.  Modern humans have migrated since their beginnings (see below from Wiki). Our county has more wealth than every country in Latin America and our poorest are rich compared to much of the populations in these countries.  Our leaders need to quit screaming the sky is falling down, sit down with each other, and like rational people seek to fix this problem with some imperfect solution.  If I lived in the 11th I'd stay home on July 22.  Barr is beginning to channel Tom Watson's spirit--he'd better be careful.    


Around 125,000 years ago Modern Humans reached the Near East from where they later spread across Asia and Europe. From the Near East, these populations spread east to South Asia by 50,000 years ago, and on to Australia by 40,000 years ago,[3] when for the first time H. sapiens reached territory never reached by H. erectus. H. sapiens reached Europe around 43,000 years ago,[4] eventually replacing the Neanderthal population. East Asia was reached by 30,000 years ago.

The date of migration to North America is disputed; it may have taken place around 30 thousand years ago, or considerably later, around 14 thousand years ago. Colonization of the Pacific islands of Polynesia began around 1300 BCE, and was completed by 900 CE. The ancestors of Polynesians left Taiwan around 5,200 years ago.

Chris30338
Chris30338

@Observant1 As much as I have my own concerns about illegal immigration, your comments show a complete lack of understanding of the constitution.


1) Deporting every illegal immigrant back to their country of origin would cost 10's of billions of dollars. Is the Republican Congress willing to raise taxes to fund that???

2) Illegal immigrants have rights. They automatically get those rights the moment they step on US soil. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly on this. 

3) Due Process is the RIGHT of ANYONE on American soil, not just citizens. Which is one of the reasons we have all those folks imprisoned without trial in Guantanamo Bay, which is NOT American soil but Cuban soil.


Non-citizens, whether they are here legally or not, are afforded many of the same rights as citizens.

Chris30338
Chris30338

You won't stop illegal immigration as long as you allow employers to get away with employing them with minor fines that are tax deductable. Illegal immigrants are coming here because they know that they will be able to find low paying jobs that no American citizen would want for what these employers are willing to pay. It's all about supply and demand. Which is why all the Business Lobbyists have remained silent on this issue.

AlwaysReady
AlwaysReady

An Immigration Emergency has been in effect for over 20 years for the entire nation.


The Do Nothing's send troops to Afghanistan and Iraq but don't protect the U.S. Border.

LEcho
LEcho

Hmm...up until now I've sided with liberals on immigration but its getting to be a bit too much. I mean I don't know about dangerous illegals but uninsured, improperly trained undocumented drivers on Ga roads is a concern of mine. I didn't realize the issue until I read about the undocumented a unlicensed lady driving a minivan on 85 that caused the death of a 18-wheeler truck driver and have continuously noted many more accidents involving undocumented immigrants. In regards to the issue of workers not being taxed, I have a real issue with it. Anybody making a single damn dime within the borders of he US should pay their fair share regardless of how long you intend on being here,status, etc. I received a cost of living adjustment at eh beginning of the year only to have it snatch away plus some by the SS tax. Yes, I understand that non citizens shouldn't have to pay SS since their ineligible but I shouldn't have to pay either since it wont exist once (if only) I do retire. And Obama putting $3 bill towards the immigration issue it won't help b/c 2 years from now we'll find the money just lined some crooks pockets. I say actually work with conservatives on this.

bigdoggie1
bigdoggie1

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!  BTW: Does Barr have black relatives in his recent past? He looks more black than President Obama!

lithoniaguy
lithoniaguy

If the illegal aliens were white this wouldn't be a problem.

honested
honested

So will the 'do nothing' Congress hire the judges and supply the budget to solve the problem?

Or will they follow standard procedure and blather on fauxnewz while taking up space in their offices?

cc423
cc423

They are already here and working so why not make them citizens and tax them and have them pay into the SS fund, etc.? Besides... have you seen how hard these people work? Plenty of Americans could take a lesson.

butchcat
butchcat

I guess nuts are in season.  

BobbyDawg
BobbyDawg

I was born and raised in Georgia and consider myself to be a red blooded American citizen who would never put another country ahead of our great USA, but we as a country could take some lessons from Germany on immigration and protecting our borders.

Lgreen2289
Lgreen2289

As much as I agree with Obama's politics I can not agree with just letting them come in and he wants tax payers to foot the bill. If he wants 2 billion then he better be using it to send them back home and I mean all of them, then spend the rest protecting our border. That old exccuse that we are all immagrantes does not apply here.

ms1964
ms1964

Another nutcase political ploy.  This is what's wrong with politics. Nobody denies there's a significant burden being placed on our system due to the influx of immigrants from central America.  But to create a false crisis in Georgia is why this loony should never be taken seriously.  And his "save Lockheed" billboards are another example.  If Lockheed were really in danger, there isn't a #$%& thing that this idiot could do about it (and no, it's not in danger of disappearing). 

But plenty of folks in the 11th District will run the polls to support this guy as he fights two non-existent battles. 

Are we really this stupid (I already know the answer).

Observant1
Observant1

When asked why these illegals are not being sent back immediately, Border Patrol agents respond that procedures and regulations now in place dictate that they must turn them over to INS or HHS or some other agency.  Congress should get off its overpaid rear and fix that problem with a two or three page bill that MANDATES that these people be immediately shipped back across the Mexican border, if not to their country of origin. (After all, it was that border they crossed to get into the U.S. If the Mexicans had to deal with them, maybe they'd close their OWN Southern Border!)


Amnesty advocates whine that immediate deportation deprives the illegal aliens of "due process".  Due process is a right of citizens, but not illegal border jumpers.  They have no "rights" per se, only whatever privileges our country decides to extend to them.


The next step would be for Congress to cut off aid and trade with the countries of origin for this migratory flood until the governments of those countries start policing their own borders.  The U.S. is being used as a dumping ground and it has to stop!!

honested
honested

This discussion makes me wonder, will the House and Senate get about the business of solving this problem?

First, all the judicial vacancies need to be filled in order to speed up the deportation hearing process, job of the Senate and requires the input of the 'party of no'.

Second, the House needs to get skippy about funding the necessary judicial actions as well as the border enforcement actions. Of course tax increases will be necessary, but doing the job of government isn't cheap.

FirstDerivative
FirstDerivative

Bob Barr seems to be up to his old tricks. Find a bogey man and call up all the hateful Americans and exaggerate the bogeyman's crime in their presence.

basil4fun
basil4fun

@Chris30338 Please support these three statements with facts to back them, otherwise stop the phony rhetoric.


PoliticalOutsider
PoliticalOutsider

Lithoniaguy

Interesting point. I wonder what the reaction would be if these were white, middle class Canadians coming across the border.

Andy123
Andy123

@cc423 

Many are already paying SS as illegals because the SS Admin will NOT verify you to your SS number, they only tell your employer its a legit SS number. This is why SS cards are for sale at the Buford Hwy Flea Market. 

Chris30338
Chris30338

@Observant1 As much as I have my own concerns about illegal immigration, your comments show a complete lack of understanding of the constitution.


1) Deporting every illegal immigrant back to their country of origin would cost 10's of billions of dollars. Is the Republican Congress willing to raise taxes to fund that???

2) Illegal immigrants have rights. They automatically get those rights the moment they step on US soil. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly on this. 

3) Due Process is the RIGHT of ANYONE on American soil, not just citizens. Which is one of the reasons we have all those folks imprisoned without trial in Guantanamo Bay, which is NOT American soil but Cuban soil.


Non-citizens, whether they are here legally or not, are afforded the many of the same rights as citizens.

DS
DS

@Observant1, I agree with some of what you've written. I just don't see it happening.

An anti-trafficking law was passed in 2008 that affects how the government has to process these immigrant children. The law was written for a different purpose---this was just an unanticipated consequence.

http://nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-surge-rooted-in-law-to-curb-child-trafficking.html

Normally when a law has unintended effects, Congress would quickly pass legislation to fix the law, and the President would quickly sign it.

But Congress is getting almost nothing done. Republican House members won't touch legislation about illegal immigration with a 10-foot pole, for fear of getting clobbered in their next primary.

Fixing the law and accelerating deportations might help, but it wouldn't solve the problem. As long as there's rampant drug gang violence down there and immigrant smugglers are convincing parents that their children would be allowed into the US, this will continue. These root causes have to be fixed too.

honested
honested

@Observant1 

They all must have a hearing, in Courts that are massively understaffed without the necessary number of judges.

See what happens when not enough revenue is collected and when one party only has one answer (NO!) to every question?

GaBlue
GaBlue

There's another, more important aspect of what's happening: These children are risking everything (on the understandable decision of their parents, no doubt) and coming here TO ESCAPE VIOLENCE AND MURDER. 


They're children. They're not coming her to take your $40K/yr job away from you. There coming here because THEY DON'T WANT TO DIE. You think it's dangerous to be a kid in Chicago?  The MURDER rate in Central America makes Chicago look like Shangri La. Do you think those parents want to send their babies away? It's about LIFE!


Where are the PRO-LIFERS who care about these little refugees from death? They didn't cause this. They just want to live.

Retired-Soldier
Retired-Soldier

@honested  The judicial vacancies is a Dem problem, get them through committee and to the floor.

Border enforcement? Really. They are all baby sitting the illegals that are coming into our country. Remember the Dems told us the border was secure, right.


The solution is simple. We should adopt the Mexico plan. Allow rapid movement through the United States and assist if necessary the illegals crossing the Canada border.

JAWJA
JAWJA

@FirstDerivative So, Bob has a son named Derek.  Wonder what the pro lifer would have named the other one?

Andy123
Andy123

@GaBlue 

A liberal that believes in imaginary friends,.  That's interesting considering the company you keep.  

basil4fun
basil4fun

@PoliticalOutsider Please, ..... give up with the racist innuendos. Illegal is illegal, and guess what, .... these are not 'white, middle class Canadians coming across the border', so it's a moot point.  Why must some people, like you, always feel the need to throw in the race card, when race is not the issue?

Retired-Soldier
Retired-Soldier

@GaBlue  If that's true, why aren't they going and staying in Mexico? Why are they not fleeing to Costa Rica or Panama?

honested
honested

@Retired-Soldier @honested 

Yo genius, which party is impeding the Judicial nominations?

It ain't the Democrats.

But we can thank the myopic ray-gun foreign policy in Central America in the '80s for the influx annoyance of today!

GaBlue
GaBlue

@EdUktr


Nope. My father is neither the devil nor a liar. He was a military officer, a hard worker, good provider, and is a compassionate and honest man. Try again, hater.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@Retired-Soldier From what I have read, these unaccompanied children are trying to reunite with their parent(s) who left them years ago to come to America and earn money to send back to them. These children have been brought up by relatives or friends back in Central America, and now they want their real parents. To me, it seems heart-wrenching---young children coming by themselves to this strange and very large country hoping to find their mother or father.

GaBlue
GaBlue

@Retired-Soldier


Good question, that I'm sure you ask from your well-intentioned heart.  Why not do some research on this yourself? I hate to ask a man like you to take my word for anything. There are a number of news stories that shed more light on their situation. I know you wouldn't want to judge without having more facts about these children who were born into frightening circumstances through no fault of their own.


Retired-Soldier
Retired-Soldier

@honested @Retired-Soldier  Please specify which judgeships that will hold hearing on this matter are being "held-up".


Awaiting your response and thanking you in advance all great knowing honested.

Retired-Soldier
Retired-Soldier

@GaBlue @Retired-Soldier  Of course anyone entering a country illegally will have a story of woe. I am sure some of them are true. But why come thousands of miles to escape violence instead of hundreds if the real reason is escaping violence? It does sound very suspect.


Again using your logic why aren't the parents of youth in Chicago sending them to Canada or Mexico, or at least to Iowa?


Just because it is said or reported don't make it true. 


BTW I lived in Central America for three years, Panama. Being poor isn't being born into "freighting circumstances". It is being poor, nothing more nothing less. Most I suspect are economic illegals and should be treated accordingly

honested
honested

@Retired-Soldier @honested 

Back at ya'.

How many judicial appointments have been approved this year?

You can close your eyes and hold your breath, but all of America can smell this rat.

Do you want the law followed or not?

GaBlue
GaBlue

@Retired-Soldier


I am sure you speak out of a genuine respect for truth and value of human life.

If you say they are merely "economic illegals" who deserve your notion of "accordingly," then who are they, the reporters, the people working with the children, those who log statistics on crime and violence, and the families who currently live down there, to say otherwise. Your suppositions must surely carry more weight than their truths! God bless you, R-S, for having the courage of your suppositions.

Retired-Soldier
Retired-Soldier

@GaBlue  Really, you know no more truth than I do. One can only look at the facts as best known and drawn conclusions. You just want to conveniently avoid the fact these children and adults choose to travel 1000 miles when they could have accomplished the same purpose (fleeing violence )by fleeing at most several hundred miles. Ask yourself the question. Or is it you really don't want the truth?

Andy123
Andy123

@Retired-Soldier @GaBlue 

GaBlue is regurgitating the excuses CNN and MSNBC are using for these children to be here.  GaBlue is clueless otherwise.  

DS
DS

@Retired-Soldier, that's a fair question. The answer is that these parents didn't suddenly decide, independently and on their own, to send their children to the US.

Interviews have revealed that they were deliberately misinformed by criminal smuggling networks about supposed changes in US immigration policy. They've been scammed by the people who then charge a fortune to smuggle their children across the border.

http://nytimes.com/2014/06/21/us/us-plans-to-step-up-detention-and-deportation-of-migrants.html

Part of solving this problem is to get the word out in those countries that the scammers are lying about US immigration policy.

RockTrimlove
RockTrimlove

@honested @Retired-Soldier  "Retired Soldier" is an oxymoron.

Would it not be more accurate to just say "opinionated doorstop?"

Seriously, what use is a soldier who is not fighting a war?

GaBlue
GaBlue

@Andy123


I'm not a fan or follower of either of those networks. Instead, I vary my news sources and put faith in no one source, because I know how hyper-partisan the for-profit media corporations are at the behest of the hyper-partisan public. But nice try, hater.