Posted: 1:58 pm Friday, June 20th, 2014

A 2016 cattle call and a couple of Georgians at Faith and Freedom conference in D.C. 

By Daniel Malloy

WASHINGTON — About 1,000 conservative activists, including a couple busloads from Georgia, followed the call of Ralph Reed for his Faith and Freedom Coalition conference to learn about organizing in their home states and have politicians praise their activism.

The Duluth-based group, which Reed describes as “teavangelicals” marrying social and fiscal conservatism, brought in a 2016 cattle call, from Ted Cruz to Chris Christie, as well as a couple of Georgians.

Roswell Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Price rattled off a litany of Obama administration scandals and problems that make it “easy to be cynical.” But the remedy, Price said, comes from the folks in this room to spread the gospel of conservatism.

“We should be tirelessly working to persuade others to come to our cause through reason and compassion and we know we can because we have a story to tell: We believe America is the greatest nation in history of the world,” Price said.

McDonough’s Herman Cain, the radio firebrand and onetime presidential contender, was his usual blunt self.

“Those of us who are informed have got to out-vote the stupid people,” Cain said.

Christie’s speech – warmly received and bookended by partial standing ovations – tackled an interesting topic: drug addiction.

“It hasn’t worked,” Christie said of the war on drugs. “What works is giving those people — nonviolent drug offenders, addicts — the ability to be able to get the tools they need to be able to deal with their disease. I doubt there is any person in this room that has not had the problem of drug or alcohol addiction touch their families, their neighbors or their friends.”

Christie tied it into a discussion of his anti-abortion stance:

“If you’re pro-life, as I am, you need to be pro-life for the whole life. You can’t just afford to be pro-life when the human being is in the womb. … Sometimes being pro-life [after birth] is messy. Sometimes it’s difficult because human beings make bad choices.”

Among the possible presidential contenders speaking Friday morning were former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., who spoke of the importance of marriage, and U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who is in the process of assuring grassroots conservatives that his libertarian-tinged views are not so bad. He was introduced with a video about his anti-abortion views and gave this line: “America is in a full-blown spiritual crisis.”

103 comments
Charles50
Charles50

Cattle led to the slaughter.  Why does anyone still listen to Ralph Reed?

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

So...a thousand people gathered to support the violation of the Establishment Clause.

And these morons think they are pro-constitution? That is sad.

TheRealJDW
TheRealJDW

@TD...question i have for the anti abortion crowd is how does one reconcile the view that abortion should be illegal yet there should be no organized sex education.

honested
honested

1,000 people.

There were probably more than that at the Pink Pony last night and nobody had to con them with a free tour of D.C. and a bus ride.

SueEllenEwing
SueEllenEwing

Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha.  Oh me. I needed that laugh.

DS
DS

Paul Krugman wrote an interesting article recently in which he suggested that "movement conservatism" might be unraveling before our eyes. 

Movement conservatives form organizations that stir up voter anxiety over social and religious issues, claim that the Republican party would solve these problems if elected, then, once elected, use their power to promote an elitist economic agenda. That's what Reed and his cronies are attempting with the event described in this article.

It's a bait-and-switch tactic. Like greyhound racing, where you never want the dogs to catch the mechanical rabbit, the Republican party uses movement conservatives to win elections, but isn't too keen on actually delivering the legislation that movement conservatives want. 

PK believes that Eric Cantor lost because Republican base voters didn’t trust him to serve their priorities as opposed to those of corporate interests. The spell has been broken. No more bait-and-switch.

In Cantor's case, the movement conservatives were secular tea party types, not religious. But Cantor's defeat shows that lip service to extremism isn’t enough; the base needs to believe that you really mean it.

I wonder what the attendees at this Ralph Reed conference believe?

SouthGeorgiareader
SouthGeorgiareader

Sign of the Times.  A thousand gullible people drinking the tea and believing Ralph Reed and his ilk...the greatest con job possible, combining faith and politics to gain power.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

I haven't seen a lot of compassion and reason in years among present day conservatives, regardless of what Tom Price proclaims.  If you want to understand reason encompassed within wisdom and compassion, read the words of President Obama as he spoke them in his Nobel Peace Prize Speech. Contrast President Obama's thinking and spirit with the thinking and spirit of self-serving Republican leaders like Tom Price, Ralph Reed, Ted Cruz, Herman Cain, and Chris Christie.


President Obama, Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance Speech:


"But we do not have to think that human nature is perfect for us to still believe that the human condition can be perfected. We do not have to live in an idealized world to still reach for those ideals that will make it a better place. The non-violence practiced by men like Gandhi and King may not have been practical or possible in every circumstance, but the love that they preached – their faith in human progress – must always be the North Star that guides us on our journey.

For if we lose that faith – if we dismiss it as silly or naïve; if we divorce it from the decisions that we make on issues of war and peace – then we lose what is best about humanity. We lose our sense of possibility. We lose our moral compass."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whose ideas do you wish to see prevail in this world? Whose ideas make America a better nation and a better role model for the people of this planet?  If you are totally honest with yourself, you will see that President Obama has a vision for our nation and our world that is in harmony with the ideals established by America's Founding Fathers.  Reject the words and meaningless praise to you by these temporarily in office politicians who will "con" you, if you let them.  Don't let them.  Vote Democratic.



BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

Wonder if the busloads from Georgia were lured by the promise of a free tour of D.C. like those from New York? Religion isn't in itself enough of a con anymore that Reed has to resort to the tactics of time-share sales?

DewieCheatem_n_Howe
DewieCheatem_n_Howe

Did I miss Ralph Reed's "I have sinned" moment?  When did he get back to bidness as usual?  You know, being the seer of all things political the invisible man-in-the-sky wants.  One thing for certain, representing yourself as his agent has been a great gig for centuries now.  To paraphrase Carlin he may be omnipotent and omnipresent but he just can't handle money. Never mind the fact that our founders didn't think he should be involved in our government regardless of who was claiming to be his representative.  

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

Ralph "the guy who conned both Christians and Native Americans" Reed?  Tom "I just love BP" Price? Rick "I should have been the 2012 GOP Presidential Nominee" Santorum?  Rand "My knowledge of Black history can be put in a timble" Paul? Rafael "I am no longer a Canadian, but I'm still Hispanic" Cruz? Chris "I will back a truck over a friend to stay in office" Christie?  Women should be very afraid.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

No one that supports the Democratic position on abortion can ever be in the high moral ground.

No one that (sic) supports the Republican position that we should let the working poor die rather than give them federally furnished medical care, can ever be in the high moral ground.

There, fixed it for you td1234.

hamiltonAZ
hamiltonAZ

"There's a darkness upon me thats flooded in light, In the fine print they tell me whats wrong and whats right."  Avett

honested
honested

1,000  people with no clue wasted time and money to spend the weekend listening to people who prove daily on public airwaves they have no clue.

Is it any wonder the House of Representatives has become irrelevant?

NWGAL
NWGAL

Civilization is better than ignorance. Herman Cain totally doesn't understand this.

td1234
td1234

@TheRealJDW Who said there should not be sex education? I think the thought of the social conservatives is that abstinence should be the first and foremost choice prior to marriage.  Do not teach deviant behavior and allow the parent to opt out and teach at home if they so desire.  

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@DS  I don't know what they believe, but I do know that they must stop believing surface spin or this nation is going to end up a plutocracy controlled by the few with the rest of us becoming their servants.


We must keep calling out the spin and the lies for what they are, with no holding back.  Just as people, all people, knew, deep down, that the Civil Rights cause was a just one, we must keep calling out lies clothed in platitudes, like a wolf clothed in a sheep's skin, so that the American people, and Georgians, will see truth as it is.

honested
honested

@DS 

What do they believe?

Maybe, if they pray hard enough, gas prices will come down and they won't have to take the bus?

honested
honested

@SouthGeorgiareader 

An Atheist Amen!

ralph reed of all people!

Is there anyone in the 'christian sharia' movement who is more discredited?

honested
honested

@DewieCheatem_n_Howe 

He who claims to be the 'representative' has always been the problem.

I would probably modify my strident opposition to 'belief' is said omnipotent being were to pop from the sky and 'splain to us how things would be.

Yet I never felt the hallucinations of deranged goat herders met the accuracy test.

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

@CherokeeCounty Looks to me like the Grim Reaper certainly has no problem with Republicans wanting to be in the ground, however they may choose to term their plot.

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL And please explain to us all what civilization means to you? 

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

There are two problems with that. First, the mo sex before marriage thing is laden with religious conotations. Second, abstinence only sex ed is not an education at all. It is a attempt to indoctrinate a religious idea.

Herein lies further evidence that conservatives hate Americans. They pretend to believe in small government, but take every chance they can to ban abortion on religious grounds (essentially putting government between patients and their doctors). Then they don't support sex education programs designed to educate students on safe safe sex which could prevent many of those unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

That line about parents giving sex ed is tired and obviously ineffective. We don't rely on parents for any other aspect of formal education. ..what makes sex ed so different? The only answer wrong-wingers can offer is that sex Is shameful and not for recreation because of their religious beliefs.

honested
honested

@MaryElizabethSings 

Unfortunately, that gives a lot of credit to people who voted for sonny perdue twice and nathan deal once.

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

Sarah Palin is definitely more discredited.

honested
honested

@td1234 @NWGAL 

Freedom from religion and/or the interference of those who follow the voice of their imaginary friend.

......for starters.

NWGAL
NWGAL

Civilization: The attitude that we are all in this together and want a better life for alll which is the bottom line of community. A willingness to find the music and beauty in daily life which is the inspiration for art. A willingness to act from our better selves and not fear.

Kamchak
Kamchak

And please explain to us all what civilization means to you? 

It certainly doesn't include any silly regressive tentherism.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@honested 


Honested, people are complex and lean this way and then that way, as more truth, enlightened truth, surfaces.  I can never give up on the basic decency of most people to change when they are inspired to seek a better way.


P.S.  Keep speaking out as you do.  Well done. I will be gone for the weekend.  Best to you.  

NWGAL
NWGAL

Honested, I am not religious. I think the multiverses are far more complex and rich than an old white guy sitting in the clouds passing judgment. But I do think we as a species need to work together to prevent our own extinction from greed and short sighted ness. Yet ultimately we are insignificant and that is both our strength and our weakness.

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL To give others material possessions without them earning them in no way makes things better for the person or for society as a whole. When people earn what they have by working hard and educating themselves to be the best they can be then the person lives a meaningful and full life and society is better off. 


For a society to set high expectations and not makes excuses for or tolerate people not taking responsibility for ones on actions is when society excels and grows. 

honested
honested

@NWGAL 

 Agreed.

At the same time, what is the driver for mass murder of one-another in Iraq this evening.

NWGAL
NWGAL

td, Haven't you figured out yet that generosity is not about others but about yourself?

Kamchak
Kamchak

 To give others material possessions without them earning them in no way makes things better for the person or for society as a whole.

Who posted anything about "give"?

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL There is a huge difference in individuals giving and government. 


Year after year conservatives are the biggest givers to charity in this country. 

Kamchak
Kamchak

@NWGAL 

td, Haven't you figured out yet that generosity is not about others but about yourself?

Republican Jesus doesn't recognize generosity.

honested
honested

@td1234 @NWGAL 

Well, tiny dog, it's time to return to the top marginal rate of 91% (as under Eisenhower) and see how much charitable giving among those at the top is spurred.

NWGAL
NWGAL

Td, Actually study after study proves that lower income people are more generous than the wealthy. At least with the percentage of income. If you want to be mean spirited, that is your right. But don't pretend to take the moral high ground with that attitude.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Year after year...

...Victoria's Secret supermodels line up at my door and demand lurid steamy sex with me.

td1234
td1234

@honested And exactly what would this accomplish to reaching the goal of self sufficiency for all Americans?  

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL No one that supports the Democratic position on abortion can ever be in the high moral ground. 

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

By providing the funding for all effective education programs to function at full capacity,......

And allowing those with a sense of 'wealth entitlement' to seek the charitable expense of their choice to offset taxation.

The plan that worked for decades and generated the most 'self-sufficient' segment of our population in history.

Kamchak
Kamchak

...position on abortion...

When you got nothing, play the abortion card.

Just sayin'.

NWGAL
NWGAL

On abortion, I think it should be legal and rare. Contraception should be easily and cheaply obtained. No woman wants an abortion. But sometimes the alternative is worse. But you know this is deflecting the conversation because you know you are wrong

td1234
td1234

@honested @td1234 If it worked so well then why did we have to pass the "great society" programs in the 60's? 

honested
honested

@Kamchak 

It won't be long before he is ranting about 'staring into the eyes of the downtrodden'.

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL Deflecting what conversation? You are the one that brought up moral standing into the conversation. 


I was speaking about the best philosophy to raise the individual and the nation at the same time. Dependency and the development of an entitlement class is in no way in the best interest of an individual or a country. 


The "great society"  has ruined the family and turned large segments of the population into a dependent instead of an independent class. 

honested
honested

@NWGAL 

It is an argument he and his ilk have long ago lost, but they refuse to accept reality.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @honested 

If churches and private orgs as you have stated in the past as being the ones who should be caring for those in need and not government was really working do tell us why the programs were passed

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Because President Kennedy had made the mistake of cutting taxes, a mistake that was amplified by ronald (the liar) ray-gun.

Cutting taxes is always a terrible mistake.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@honested 

It won't be long before he is ranting about 'staring into the eyes of the downtrodden'. 

I'm saying it's the Margret Sanger card.

Kamchak
Kamchak

The "great society"  has ruined the family...

Got proof?

Please be specific and show your work.

Thanks in advance.

honested
honested

@td1234 @NWGAL 

Your ability to conflate unrelated activities and come up with an unsupportable postulate must be self-impressive to you!!

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows Because socialist like your friend Ed wanted to attack religion and it could not be done if the church was playing the role of taking care of the poor. 

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak Look at the numbers. $17 trillion spent with few if any tangible results after 50 years. All the program has done is gotten this nation into the debt we have today and has virtually killed the family unit in many communities in this nation.  

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

Can I get a side of ranch and some more bread to go with that word salad?

honested
honested

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

If the church was doing it's job (as defined by those who want to keep churches in business and keep making excuses for them) there would be no 'poor'.

Of course, if following the dictates of a church functioned, the Holy Roman Empire would have been a success.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Because socialist like your friend Ed wanted to attack religion...

Socialist like Ed were able to nullify the church and therefore god? 

Is that what you are struggling not to say?

Kamchak
Kamchak

Look at the numbers.

What part of "Please be specific and show your work" seems to be giving you the most trouble?

honested
honested

@td1234 @Kamchak 

Well, if you are going to 'talk numbers' (and make up a value for a program that has been essentially gutted since the nixxxxxon years), what do we have to show for the 3 trillion wasted in Iraq since 2003?

The amount of time you wasted listening to noots must have ruined the ability to reason.

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak I have posted the numbers many times on these blogs and you have yet to read them so why should I do it again? 

Kamchak
Kamchak

I have posted the numbers many times on these blogs...

I have posted the names of many Victoria's Secret supermodels that want to have lurid steamy sex with me.

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak And I do not ask you post their names and pictures over and over again because I did not read the information when you posted it the first 20 times. 

Kamchak
Kamchak

(shrug)

Deflecturbation.