Posted: 6:15 pm Monday, June 9th, 2014

Pro-Jack Kingston Super PAC hits Perdue on taxes 

By Greg Bluestein

Businessman David Perdue’s campaign hinges on his appeal as an outsider. A new wave of attack ads from Jack Kingston’s supporters, though, pitches him as the “outsider who would raise our taxes.”

The Southern Conservatives Fund, a group set up by David Dove, has already shelled out nearly $200,000 on ads targeting Perdue ahead of the July 22 runoff.

The ad, which you’ll see above, is the latest attack to dredge up Perdue’s frank comments last month on the “reality” of raising federal revenue. 

The ramp-up comes in the wake of this weekend’s AJC report that Kingston’s top contributors come from two firms linked to a felon the federal government has long tried to deport. Perdue’s camp said the investigation was evidence that Kingston was an out-of-touch politician who has “lost perspective on what is normal.”

 

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When you are in debt up to your eyeballs and still insist on paying more on defense than any other nation in the world, the very last thing you want to do is find a way to increase the amount of money you have coming in.


Good thing most Georgians don't know much about economics.

Candor
Candor

A pox on all of you if you re-elect anybody! (and I included Kingston in that too).

Kingston has feasted at the public trough for years and Deal is the most ethically challenged person that I've met.

You complain about government but constantly send the same people back.


What is wrong with you?


Jke
Jke

Your car mechanic, doctor and your lawyer want to know all the facts before making a conclusion.  So should the voters.  To be fair, both sides have to be heard.  The Kingston campaign stated it returned those contributions and:


"To be clear, the individual in question, Mr. Satary, made no contribution to our campaign nor was his name listed as a host of the event nor did we coordinate or interact with him."


It's up to Republican voters to determine the importance of or lack of importance of the contributions based on all the facts available and not one-half of the story.

td1234
td1234

From the previous blog that I did not know was dead: 


The state spends $9 billion a year already for Medicaid and that number is going up due to Obamacare. This is 20% of the total expenses because the Feds pay the other 80%. 


After the three years is up then the state would have to pay 10%, or as DCH has estimated, $1 billion more per year.


The voters will pass a Constitutional Amendment in November to cap the states income tax rate at its current level and income taxes account for 60% of all revenue in Georgia. 


Where is the state going to come up with this additional money? How much are we going to pay for increased consumption tax? 


The only other way to pay this additional $1 billion per year is to cut other government spending in the state. The state's budget is basically 50% education, 30% Medicaid and 20% all other spending and the budget is currently around $22 billion. How much are you willing to take out of education to give people free insurance? 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Wonder what Michelle Nunn thinks about how to increase revenue, and if and where she would cut spending and ever actually reverse the increasing national debt.

And what if some felon is found to have contributed to her campaign?

The AJC is quick to find new campaign ads, but still hasn't found the latest poll that shows Democrats trailing.

NWGAL
NWGAL

How much will a Senate seat end up costing?

td1234
td1234

@btn Our nations debt from 1965 to present is very close to the same amount this nation has spent on "great society" programs. 


The amount of GDP we spend today on military spending is dramatically less than we spent in 1965. 

honested
honested

@td1234 

As I stated on the 'dead blog', you make a wonderful case for why the ridiculous 'tax cap' should fail by a strong majority.

It is definitely time for Georgia to have a Progressive Income Tax that follows the Federal model with many fewer deductions.

Why should those dependent on a stable economic and governmental system to maintain their level of largesse be exempt in any way from funding it's continuance?

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@td1234 since you are so adamant about this and do not consider for one second that expanded medicaid will increase jobs, revenue, tax collections, etc...how about we legalize weed like Colorado and tax it like Colorado and add millions to the revenue! Now there is an idea! What most Georgians don't realize is that weed is far less toxic and dangerous than alcohol. But I can guarantee you Repubs in this state will fight tooth and nail to keep it illegal. You know they are the party of freedom! NOT!

EdUktr
EdUktr

@The_Centrist

The next ad should point out that Kingston would beat Michelle Nunn by an even bigger margin, according to polling: 

Kingston 43%; Nunn 37% 

Perdue 43%; Nunn 38%

—Latest poll results from 11Alive News (WXIA-TV) http://tinyurl.com/ouq4e3d

Kamchak
Kamchak

@The_Centrist 

And what if...

 ...unicorns crapped Skittles?

How much would that cut into Mars' revenue stream?

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL If you add both sides together then probably close to $50 million.

honested
honested

@td1234 @btn 

With the reduction of unnecessary offshore military involvements, the amount of GDP we waste on the military is about 200% of what is should be.

td1234
td1234

@honested


As I stated stated right below your post. You are dreaming if you really believe anything other than the following: 


Georgia will overwhelming pass the income tax cap Constitutional Amendment. 


Georgia will not expand Medicaid 


Georgia will be controlled by Republicans after the November election. 

td1234
td1234

@NOlongerRepublican @td1234 Again you did not answer the question. 


Pot is not going to be legalized in Ga. so that is out. 


Since the progressives claim is that we already take care of the poor in the ER's then where is all these new jobs going to come from? 


Again how are we going to pay for the expansion? How much are you willing to cut in education? 

td1234
td1234

@NOlongerRepublican @td1234 Yes that is a great idea. Let us have a million Willie Nelson's running around the state in 30 years that do not have the means to take care of themselves. 


Great idea. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Like the military - all volunteer.

Top Senate race, according to CQ Roll Call’s formula. Senate Massachusetts: Republican Sen. Scott P. Brown vs. Democrat Elizabeth Warren

Candidates: $78,572,515

Outside: $6,856,819

Total: $85,429,334

honested
honested

@td1234 @NOlongerRepublican 

By the way, caring for 'the poor' in ER's is the most inefficient and massively expensive method to provide simple primary care.

Compare that to say, paying 35 dollars a gallon for gasoline and you MIGHT catch on.

honested
honested

@td1234 @NOlongerRepublican 

Inflexibility as well as attachment to stale, failed ideology leads to irrelevance in the public sphere.

Maybe you should pay some attention to the interests of those not living in your household.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Already answered you td, you just don't like the answer.

Why bother trying to educate you again?

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Georgia will have a higher percentage of outside spending since there is no such pledge to limit it like "signed by Brown and Warren that helped keep much of the noise away".  [Same source]

td1234
td1234

@honested Your are delusional my friend. Just plain delusional. 

td1234
td1234

@honested The poor are cared for in Georgia and it is called Medicaid. What you are advocating for is nothing more than expanding socialized Medicine to those that can afford to pay for themselves but choose not too. 

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

but for what it's worth, here it is again.

http://www.coverga.org/medicaid101/medicaid101.html

Over the first five years of coverage the federal government would pump $14 billion into Georgia - and that money would support high paid medical jobs.  The cost to Georgia, to get that $14 billion, would be about $14 million dollars.

We're incredibly foolish to turn down the money.

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

tiny dog,

The responsibility of more stable minds is to spend every moment possible between now and November educating voters to what a terrible idea any sort of 'tax cap' is now or ever. 

The tax cap will COST the majority of Georgians by requiring increases in other forms of taxation that do not directly affect those gaining undeserved 'relief'. 

Wouldn't it be considered stupid for a large group of people to take an action causing themselves harm in order to facilitate an artificial moral imperative?

Therefore, do you consider the Voting Population of Georgia stupid?

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - We have had this discussion before, but reading - much less debating with a hopeless partisan is a total waste of time.

You and I differ on several subjects, but you offer rationale for your positions, so I enjoy the debate.  Known posts and knee jerk responses from partisans get skipped over by me.  

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

If EVERYBODY is on the same 'plan' by virtue of being a Citizen and paying for it through whatever level of taxation they qualify, why is it any skin off your particular nose.

Call it whatever 'ism' you wish, the truth is it is simple enlightened Civilization.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

So the Waffle House waitress whose husband left her so she's struggling to get by and keep her kids fed and going to school on that $8 per hour salary... well she just made poor decisions in her life, I guess, so the heck with her.

Sorry td, but no where in the New Testament did Jesus Christ make his requirement that we assist those in need, dependent on whether or not they had made good choices in life.

Deny them help if you want, but don't claim the mantle of Christianity while you're doing it.

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty And if those figures were accurate, which I have disproven many of them, then most of the money is nothing more than transfer payments that does not create wealth or tax revenue and the citizens of GA are still stuck with a billion dollars per year bill that we can not afford without making major cuts to Education. 

The-Centrist
The-Centrist

debating with a hopeless partisan is a total waste of time.

Correct.  Which is why people rarely respond to your comments.

responses from partisans get skipped over by me.

What an incredibly priggish thing to say.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist @td1234 I know it is hopeless but like I said before to be able for the other viewers to actually be able to see the complete failure of their argument is a worthwhile effort IMHO. 


I come on these blogs to learn from wise people and the educate others that want to learn. 


There are 22 people listening right now and only 2 or 3 posting so the others are reading and hopefully forming a sane political thought. 

td1234
td1234

@honested I have no problem with exchanges for the purpose of finding a HC plan for yourself or family. 


Just leave those subsidies out of the equation. 

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty Oh yes, the party that supports killing millions of babies each year, denied God 3 times at their convention and supports living out of wedlock or marrying same sex couples has the high moral ground. 


Please stop with the delusional diatribe about how Democrats are Christians. 

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Salaries going to doctors and nurses in Waycross don't create wealth?

If you're really a businessman you can't be that ignorant of economics, td.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Scum screenname stealing hypocritical liberal.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - The lurkers are either partisans or capable of figuring out on their own who offers logical positions without having to be shown.

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

What reason is there to justify continuance of the artificial 'plan'?

The concept of a 'plan' is simply to suit the actuarial underwriting projections of a for profit insurance company. The very idea of continuing to include an entity with no real reason for involvement in the process (other than to scrape 20% off the top) is madness.

With the insurance industry wiped clean from the equation, any concept of 'subsidies' can be dealt with in the calculation of withholding taxes.

And all of America benefits.