Posted: 9:14 pm Saturday, May 17th, 2014

Key Georgia Senate candidates won’t back Mitch McConnell 

By Daniel Malloy

At the close of Saturday night’s U.S. Senate Republican debate (which airs Sunday at 11 a.m. on Channel 2 Action News) our Jim Galloway asked the seven hopefuls on stage: Would you support Mitch McConnell as GOP leader, whether in the minority or majority?

The Kentuckian was not warmly embraced.

Businessman David Perdue: “My answer is no.”

Former Secretary of State Karen Handel: “Absolutely not. We need new leadership with new people there.”

Rep. Jack Kingston: “I’m going to support whoever will sign off on my drive to change the status quo.”

Rep. Paul Broun pointed to his vote against House Speaker John Boehner but added: “I never pledge what I’m going to do in the future ’til we look at who’s going to be running, so I don’t know.”

Rep. Phil Gingrey: “I pledge to sit down with every member of the Senate, the incumbents or newly elected, who want to be part of our leadership and listen to ‘em and ask ‘em the tough questions before I would commit to supporting them for the leadership positions.”

MARTA engineer Derrick Grayson: “The answer is no.”

Attorney Art Gardner broke with the crowd: “Yes, because the problem with Sen. McConnell isn’t that he’s ineffective. He’s ineffective because he’s in the minority. So I don’t have a problem saying yes.”

Notice the breakdown among the top tier: The Congressmen hedge, while Handel and Perdue firmly refuse to back McConnell.

***

This debate followed the Georgia Public Broadcasting format of allowing each candidate to ask a question of another. It provided most of those on stage an opportunity to stick a knife in someone else — usually Perdue.

But for the second time, Broun declined the chance. As he gave a mini stump speech, Channel 2 Action News’ Justin Farmer broke in: “Mr. Broun, do you have a question, sir?” Broun’s response:

“My question is, what separates you from all the rest of these candidates and the question I ask that to is Dr. Paul Broun. And the answer to that is every single candidate on this stage says what they will do. But I’ve been doing it. I’ve got the bill to repeal Obamacare, the Patient Option Act. My jobs bill will bring a lot of manufacturing back to America.”

He went on from there. At the end of his time, Broun asked, “Do I get a rebuttal to my own question?” Farmer’s reply: “That was scintillating, but no.”

After the debate, Broun issued a statement explaining the approach by saying that, “My campaign is based on my own ideas and record – not tearing down the other candidates with political attacks and cheap shots.”

***

Oh but there were many shots — cheap and expensive — to go around. Many are familiar by now, such as Gingrey’s hit on Perdue for the Pillowtex bankruptcy. But Gingrey followed with this:

“Most recently you and your cousin create an import-export business called Perdue Partners, which just happened to be created after your cousin — the former governor — appointed you to the Georgia Ports Authority. That sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

“Maybe you’re right when you say that you would be one of the only people in the United States Senate with that type of business experience. Blue-collar Georgians just can’t afford David Perdue.”

Perdue’s response:

“When I looked at the background of the people on the Port Authority — and first of all, I’m insulted personally about Perdue Partners. I’m one of three partners there. We export American-made products into Asia. Yes I said that right, Congressman — American-made projects into Asia. I know full well the difficulties of dealing with this federal government. And that’s why I want to go to Washington and try to bring some common sense and create a level playing field so we can get our manufacturers to competing again around the world.”

In response to the now-familiar attack on Perdue by Kingston for being on a board of a company that took stimulus money, Perdue pulled out a new jab: Kingston requested stimulus money for Georgia after voting against the stimulus law.

Perdue also had a Ronald Reagan riff to call attention to Kingston’s lengthy service in Congress. “And I have a question for the voters of Georgia: Are you better off than you were 22 years ago?”

Kingston’s new hit on Perdue was an attempt to say he was in favor of immigration reform because he was part of the seven-member board of the National Retail Foundation when the organization endorsed a Congressional immigration reform plan in 2006. Perdue says he did not support the plan.

91 comments
macten00
macten00

The person at the heart of those negotiations - and some would say the person responsible for the deadlock - is neither a member of Congress nor the holder of any public office. He is a lobbyist and a conservative activist named Grover Norquist who, over the years, has gotten virtually every Republican congressman and senator to sign an oath called "The Pledge." It's a promise that they will never, under any circumstances, vote to raise taxes on anyone. And so far Grover Norquist has held them to it, controlling 279 votes, including the speaker of the House, the Senate minority leader and all six Republican members of the Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction

PopeyeOyl
PopeyeOyl

"Number 1, I am a Constitutionalist and will never vote for any legislation that is unconstitutional.

Number 2,  does it fit the Judeo-Christian biblical principles our country was founded upon?"

- Paul Broun

Oh, this is embarraskin'. 


DavidFarrar
DavidFarrar

With Dr. Paul Broun, there is no speculation. Everyone already knows Dr. Broun's voice will add to the voices of the fiscal conservatives already in the US Senate. Dr. Born will not equivocate on amnesty. Dr. Broun will not raise government spending, nor raise taxes. Dr. Broun will not support penalties in Obamacare, and strongly supports patients choosing their own physicians.


ex animo

davidfarrar

likeitis
likeitis

I'm gonna get to Washingtun and change everthang. Just give me your vote and watch me go.

Bla, Bla,Bla...or should I say Oink, Oink, Oink.  Same old S**t year after year.

td1234
td1234

Perdue and Nunn are both carpetbaggers that have moved back to the state in the last 4 years and are now trying to steal a Senate seat from Georgians that have lived here and worked here all of their lives.  

Armydawg
Armydawg

Why won't Michelle Nunn use her married name?  When did she move back to Georgia from Virginia?

Armydawg
Armydawg

Karen Handel for Georgia. I dont trust David Perdue for a second and Jack Kingston is part of the establishment, as evidenced by his national chamber of commerce endorsement.   I voted early and Karen got my vote.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

Jim, why no picture of the clown car that most assuredly had to have been parked on stage?

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

For those posters below who objected to my comments regarding Thomas Jefferson's disapproval of the private sector business oligarchy which has been created in America via help from Republican legislators primarily, I offer the following words from the book on Thomas Jefferson published about a year ago by Jon Meacham, entitled, "Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power":


p. 252: "Hamilton, Jefferson believed, was seizing on the 'Rights of Man' note (of Jefferson) to Jonathan Smith as evidence of Jefferson's 'opposition to the government.' Jefferson disagreed strongly, telling Madison that his remarks had been 'meant for the enemies of government, to wit those who want to change it to a monarchy.' "


p. 249: "The proposal for a national bank, however, precipitated a significant debate about the role of the federal government and the relative influence of Hamilton and Jefferson in Washington's orbit.  Hamilton wanted the bank to be funded by federal deposits but run, in part, for the benefit of private investors.


Jefferson and Madison objected.  They feared that the Hamiltonian program would enable financial speculators to benefit from commercial transactions made possible by government funds." (Think privately operated charter schools operated with government funds for profit to the investors.)


p.263: "Jefferson believed that members of Congress had a vested interest in the Hamiltonian financial system. It 'will be the instrument for producing in future a king, lords and commons, or whatever else those who direct it may choose,' he told Washington."


p.257 - 258: "He (Jefferson) worried, too, about the corruption of the legislature -that law-makers were becoming financially enmeshed with the Hamiltonian system of securities and bank shares. Such economic ties were not bribes in the overt sense, Jefferson believed, but they did create a pernicious climate of cooperation between the Congress and the Treasury. This subtle form of 'corruption' troubled Jefferson, who saw it as the means by which Hamilton and his allies could control the general direction of government. And control was something Jefferson never liked seeing in other men's hands."





DannyX
DannyX

Any of you on the right have anything other the insane "commie, socialist, MSNBC, marxist," idiocy you have been babbling about this morning?  Do Republicans have a coherent message?  BENGHAZI!!!

LostGoat
LostGoat

these candidates---more of the same--get to DC, start taking big money from connected lobbyists and contractors, hand out billions in taxpayer cash to friends and family---get the country deeper in debt and accomplish nothing---it never changes in the corrupt Wash DC

WWTJD
WWTJD

It's no wonder our government is broken.


Ignorance reigns supreme as people repeat the tired tripe for those who wish to run the government.


Chris30338 -- Senators earn the same as Representives -- $174k - see CRS report - http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid=%270E%2C*PL%5B%3D%23P%20%20%0A


Chuck-UGA -   During Obama admin - 8.7 million jobs created; Bush - 1.1 million.  See  http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/07/february-48th-month-private-sector-job-growth-businesses-adding-8-7-million-jobs.html


Billygreen - nothing conservative about Broun -- he is as dangerous to our model of democracy as any totalitarian.  please see Edmund Burke's essays on conservatism.  And, William F. Buckley, and Russell Kirk.


Pay attention people -- treat these elections as job interviews -- flush out the BS ...


Nah... that's too much work.



Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Make no mistake about it, a vote for Michelle Nunn is a vote for Barack Obama's further destruction of jobs in America and an embrace of the status quo. A vote for Jack Kingston or anyone OTHER THAN Karen Handel or David Perdue is a vote for Michelle Nunn as Karen and David are the only two candidates who can defeat Michelle Nunn. Keeping in mind this is not an opinion....it is fact. I voted every time for Sam Nunn, but some of you delusional folks don't recognize that times have changed. The Democratîc Party is too infiltrated by Socialists, neo-Communists, and neo-Marxists. Also, it is definitely time for Mitch McConnell to step down his leadership position, but that is NOT to say a replacement should support Obama's agenda.

honested
honested

@PopeyeOyl  

This has been 'dr.' broun's lunatic operating policy as long as he has been mis-representing his district.

A man with absolutely no clue of what he should be doing applying for a job where the needed skill set is greater and his ability to do real damage is substantial.

JanSheffield
JanSheffield

@PopeyeOyl  you should probably educate yourself. It truly is embarrassing! You must have been educated in the government schools!!!

NWGAL
NWGAL

David, you are right. With Broun there is no speculation. He thinks evolution is nonsense. He is as nutty as a fruitcake without the mitigation of rum.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@DavidFarrar  OK, now that we know what Broun is against. Please, can anyone say what he, or any obstructionist, would like to do about:

1.  immigration beside building an electrified fence, sequester federal spending without logic, 

2. not raise taxes on those who play for a living,

3. how to allow the uninsured to take fiscal responsibility for being uninsured, and,

4. how to force insurance companies to force physicians to participate in every plan, while not ripping off the patients?

Kamchak
Kamchak

@DavidFarrar  

 Dr. Born will not equivocate on amnesty. 

1986 Ronoldo Reaganendez says, "What?"

BTW, you brought forth legal action to keep Obama's name off of the 2008 ballot in Georgia. How did that turn out for you?

PopeyeOyl
PopeyeOyl

@td1234

On the other hand Broun and Gingrey are both native Georgians with medical degrees from the Medical College of Georgia. 

Oh, this is embarasskin'!  

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234   Handel was born in Washington, D.C. and grew up in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. After graduating in May 1980 from Frederick Douglass High School in Upper Marlboro,Handel attended both Prince George's Community College and The University of Maryland, but did not complete any degree. She then went to work for Hallmark Cards. Later, she served as deputy chief of staff to Vice-President Dan Quayle's wife, Marilyn.  [From Handel's bio, Wikipedia] 

What about Handel, is she also a "carpetbagger?"  Or, is it just the candidates that you don't like that are "carpetbaggers?"

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234"No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen."  Article I, Section 3,  The Constitution of the United States.

Pray tell how either of these two candidates are "now trying to steal a Senate seat....."  Why do you hate the Constitution of the United States?

Kamchak
Kamchak

Perdue and Nunn are both carpetbaggers...

Pennsylvanian Newt Gingrich says, "What?"

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@Armydawg  Could it be for uhhh, say immediate positive name recognition, and not having the tag line,  Michelle "Daughter of Former US Senator Sam Nunn" Martin?  Let's reverse the question.  


1. David Perdue use the tag line in all of his campaign ads....David "Cousin of former Gov. Sonny Perdue" Perdue?  

2. Jack "Who grew up in Ethopia" Kingston?

3. Karen "We don't have a clue who Steve is" Handel?

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Armydawg Have you tried a magical 8 ball, or maybe a Ouija board to get the answers to life's troubling questions, such as those you posed?

ByteMe
ByteMe

@DannyX They might, but it's hard to pay attention when you're stuck wiping their spittle off you.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Unfortunately you are correct, but this is the dream of the Progressive, have a small percentage of people at the top to rule over the dumb masses. Wait a minute....isn't that Communism?! Yep.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Typical lies. Attributing job creation to Obama is equivalent to attributing my friend's successful completion of medical school because he happened to be friends with me. What a joke! Never mind the underemployed and those who have simply dropped out of the job market. You sir are the poster child of MSNBC-hugging ignorance. There is no hope for you whatsoever. Please do not vote.

DS
DS

@Chuck_UGA  Republicans have thwarted every jobs bill that's been brought forward. The legislation that they've proposed under the auspices of jobs bills have actually been give-aways to big business and the wealthy elite. They would do nothing to promote jobs and the economy.

Republicans want the economy to be bad. They think that, if the economy is lousy, voters will vote incumbent Democrats out of office. Fortunately, enough independent-minded voters have seen through this clumsy ruse.

If you really care about jobs and the economy, you need to vote for moderate Democrats. They're the only politicians who are pro-growth and business-friendly.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Chuck_UGA  

...Barack Obama's further destruction of jobs in America...

Got proof?

Please, show your work

Thanks in advance.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@Chuck_UGA  Only in a echo chamber can:


A. 53-straight months of job growth be called destruction, after the worse Recession in the last six generations.

B. A vote for Kingston is worse than supporting someone who couldn't beat Deal with all his baggage or a Romney-Lite?

C. Sam Nunn is delusional and has either adopted  or always has had socialist, communist, and Marxist values.

D. McConnell has supported the Democratic agenda working American agenda through filibustering, even his own bills.

NWGAL
NWGAL

Now not only is Obama the devil incarnate but a leading Republican is his minion. Who says bipartisanship is dead?

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@Chuck_UGA Chuck, since you dislike President Obama so much, and in your eyes he is responsible for everything...have you returned your pension and stock market profits since 2008? No? Why not? They were made on the backs of those crooked banks and brokers, huh?

PopeyeOyl
PopeyeOyl

@JanSheffield


Well Jan, them guvmint schools and a private university taught that our Constitution and subsequent laws are not based on Judeo-Christian principles and that is firmly established by the 1st Amendment. The founders had enough divine rule imposed on them as Colonists to know that they wanted a separation of church and state. I would hope that a lawmaker who is seeking an even higher office in that capacity would be aware of this and not display their ignorance as a reason to vote for them. 

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@JanSheffield   Is there something wrong with being educated in public schools?  Why don't you enlighten us, madame Einstein as to what is wrong with "government schools. And, while you're at it, enlighten the good Herr Doktor Broun whose entire education was from "government schools." From the good Herr Doktor's website:

"Dr. Broun grew up in Athens, Georgia where he attended Athens High School and graduated from the University of Georgia in 1967 with a B.S. in Chemistry. In 1971, he received his Medical Doctor degree from the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta. "

DavidFarrar
DavidFarrar

@Kamchak @DavidFarrar  


Amnesty: Ronald Reagan’s Biggest Mistake – According to Reagan Himself (http://conservativetimes.org/?p=10638)


As far as my court case went, we still don't know as a proven fact where or when Obama was born. The only thing we do know is that he sees a natural born US citizen of this Republic as no different than a natural born subject to a sovereign king, as does anybody who supports the decision made in 2009, in the  Indiana State Appeals case of Ankeny v Indiana No. 49A02-0904-CV-35:


"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are 'natural born Citizens' for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." 



So what do you believe Kamchak: Are US citizens in a constitutional Republic the same as subjects in a constitutional monarchy?


ex animo

davidfarrar




td1234
td1234

@Kamchak  At least Newt moved in and had a job as a professor at West Georgia for more than two years before he ran for office. 


Just sayin

The-Centrist
The-Centrist

...and yet it was you who whined about 'Obama's further destruction of jobs in America'.

That's s demonstrable lie - as the gentleman demonstrated.

You prove once again that truth and conservative thought are mutually exclusive.

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

More nonsense drivel. Dems are about BIG government, overwhelming government regulation, and tax increases to support unending budgets. Any independent or moderate voter with an average education will understand this and vote for the moderate Republican or Democrat candidate. Perhaps some moderate Dems are pro-growth and business-friendly, but they are a slim minority in Washington. Right now two Arch-Socialists in Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are giving out the marching orders. Because of them, Dems are going to be slaughtered in November election results. Personally, I hope McConnell and Boehner are pushed aside. We need new leadership. As far as thwarting job bills' perhaps you should read up on those Dem versions and admit that the reason they were thwarted was because of those pesky "added features" that too many politicians like to try and slip in (pork, regulation, and other irrelevant earmarks havîng nothing to do with the bill's objectives).

Chuck_UGA
Chuck_UGA

Typical idiocy. My 401k has recovered maybe 15% since the crash. More Dem BS that everyone is so much better off now. Not all anti-Obama and Republicans live on Wall Street. Yes, he is the worst President since Hoover. An empty suit with a horrendously incompetent administration. Go listen to John Dingell's retirement interview (a leading Democratic Congressman who has operated under every President since Truman). Dingell tells the facts! Obama is a disaster!

Kamchak
Kamchak

@DavidFarrar

So what do you believe Kamchak: Are US citizens in a constitutional Republic the same as subjects in a constitutional monarchy?

Deflection of the question.

How did that case turn out for you?

Were you successful in your attempt to keep Obama's name off of the 2008 Georgia ballot?

Kamchak
Kamchak

I am not sure if that is a fact or not.

She was born in Perry, Georgia.

Whether you are sure of that or not is irrelevant.

Just sayin'.

td1234
td1234

@Kamchak  I am not sure if that is a fact or not. I know the family moved to Northern Virginia and that is where she attending Elementary, middle and High school since her daddy was the Senator. 

Kamchak
Kamchak

Michelle Nunn was born here in Georgia, unlike Gingrich.

Just sayin'.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

This is a liberal, screen name stealing sock puppet scum.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

@Chuck_UGA  It sounds like the real horrendously incompetent administration is with your 401K.