Posted: 8:24 am Friday, May 2nd, 2014

Atlanta archbishop to restrict guns at Catholic churches in Georgia 

By Greg Bluestein

Catholic institutions in Georgia will restrict firearms from their sanctuaries, schools and other institutions following Gov. Nathan Deal’s approval of legislation that widely expands the state’s gun laws.

Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta. AJC file

Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Atlanta. AJC file

Archbishop Wilton Gregory wrote in a column in the Georgia Bulletin that he will “officially restrict” the presence of weapons in Georgia’s Catholic churches and religious institutions.

Limited exceptions could be made for members of the military, law enforcement officials and others authorized by the government to protect the public, Gregory said.

Wrote Gregory:

The last thing we need is more firearms in public places, especially in those places frequented by children and the vulnerable. I do not want to suggest restricting firearms in places where they are needed, to protect one’s home and property or to defend the public by officials who are entrusted with our protection. Yet this new legislation de facto makes firearms more available in places where they may allow violence to escalate.

Gregory’s comments follow a directive issued Monday by Bishop Robert Wright of the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta that also banned firearms from Episcopal churches in middle and north Georgia. The only exception to that policy will be on-duty law enforcement officers.

In fact, guns are now banned in every Episcopal church in Georgia. Here’s a rather definitive, April 24 letter from the Right Rev. Scott Anson Benhase, bishop of the Episcopal diocese of Georgia:

The broad expansion of gun rights, signed into law last week, allows Georgians to legally carry firearms in places including schools, bars and government buildings. It also for the first time expressly permits licensed concealed-weapons holders to bring firearms into the state’s churches, provided that an individual place of worship allows it.

 

124 comments
T.O.M.
T.O.M.

Isn't this the same Archbishop that decided it was a good idea that he build and live in a mansion?  Anyone that would come to that conclusion is very capable of the illogical decision that concealed weapons pose a threat in church.  The fact is, that many attendees have been protecting the congregation by concealing their weapon.  Only an illogical thinker would restrict something that cannot be enforced.  I prefer the Archbishop stick to being a vicar of Christ, and leave the protection of the masses to people that understand criminals and psychotics do not follow rules and laws.  

GunRightsGuy
GunRightsGuy

Of course, you can always decide to stop thinking that every detail of the entire universe is controlled by the whim and fancy of an invisible, floating, Jewish zombie with outdated carpentry skills, and that he is your unseen friend who, when he tells you what to do, you must do it.  And then you wouldn't have to kowtow to yet another person telling you what you can and cannot do in defense of your very life, and you could sleep-in on Sundays to boot!

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

If you are so frightened and anxious, that you can not go to church without a gun - you meet the criteria for psychotherapy and for being too unstable to safely carry a gun in U.S. civilization.

John-Atlanta
John-Atlanta

After this world rejected Jesus, Jesus told his followers to arm themselves, with good reason.


Luke 22:36 (KJV)

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Two of them were walking around armed with Jesus, with that era's AK-47, and Peter was well versed enough at combat to flick someone's ear off.

Matthew 26:51 (KJV)

51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

This is why the 2nd amendment is a God given right, that can not be infringed, not even for a convicted felon.

My mother was a sharp shooter and use to bring her shotgun and .22 rifle to school, with ammo, to practice after school, on school property, in liberal Taxachusetts, and left it in her locker all day.  I watched an interview with Sen. John Glenn describe doing the same thing. Imagine the lock down that would cause today.


The problem is not guns.  It is two godless generations delivered because this nation has forsaken God by removing him from schools in the 1960s, violating Deut 28:12 by borrowing from other nations by President Nixon in 1971 for Vietnam, and the violating of Luke 1:36 with first degree murder of 40,000,000+ with abortion in Jan 1973.  Which is basically black genocide.


We are living the Curse of the Zeroes right now.


mackdenny
mackdenny

I wonder if he bothered to actually STUDY the situation.  There have been numerous shootings at churches and other faith type meetings.  Does his order included Police Officers and Retired Police?  The last year for statistics was 2013 and there were over 610 documented incidents of violence in churches.

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

He won't be the Atlanta Archbishop forever, plus it's not too far to run to the parking lot.

Ulver
Ulver

Any word on stopping clergy from using dupes church funds, to buy million dollar homes>?

DaPoet
DaPoet

Palepadre wrote: "They don't kill others like some religions I won't name,they give THEIR life."

Tell that to the millions of innocent men, women and children the catholic church willfully murdered with both malice and forethought during the middle ages. As well as the children their priests have molested during our modern day era. 

DaPoet
DaPoet

If only the leaders of the Catholic church were as diligent in rejecting the false doctrines mixed with paganism promoted by their church in order to deceive and ensnare the souls of their congregations as they are to keep out guns.

JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

So proud to be a Catholic today...common sense response to the craziness that many of our politicians embrace.

palepadre
palepadre

Catholic and Episcopalian (Catholic without the Latin) believe in Martyrs. Ones who die defending their faith or other people. So if a gunman brings a gun into church to intentionally shoot someone,they are sure to give their life trying to grab the suspect. They don't kill others like some religions I won't name,they give THEIR life.

timus
timus

Lol.  Why are people getting all butt hurt(no pun intended when talking about the catholic church) because they can't bring a gun into a church?  REALLY?  I have guns but I have never had the slightest desire to bring it to church!!! What upsets me MORE about the law that the governor just signed is the only place they banned guns was the sate capitol!!!  SOBs!!

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

There are political and demographic anti-gun undertones here; he is from Chicago.

AnnesNewsPaper
AnnesNewsPaper

Guns or God?  Some people will have to make a decision which one they love more.

Bellaamena
Bellaamena

Responsible gun owners still have bullets that can kill innocent people, bystanders, etc.  Nothing like shooting first and asking questions later to turn responsible gun owners into murderers.

CreamofBuckwheat
CreamofBuckwheat

I may be wrong being just a sinner and all, but these BIG uppity religions seem to be more political than some political organizations. Maybe the IRS needs to investigate the Episcopals or something. 

metitotktodd
metitotktodd

Thankfully someone has come to their senses in this screwed-up state.  What sort of sick, paranoid freak would bring a gun to church?  I know churches are such dangerous places, but you really have to be incredibly sick to bring a gun into a church.  I'm not religious, but it would seem to me that guns go against everything that religion has to do with.

JM64
JM64

Responsible gun owners should not be feared.

Pam1J
Pam1J

Hypocrite legislature. -Guns everywhere except where we are!"

RexDogma
RexDogma

I believe the property rights of owners if they do want guns trumps your right to carry one into someone's property, business, church etc.  I have seen some bars already with no gun policies.  Amen to those that don't allow their property rights to be trampled by this idiotic law.  Also gun folks you need a permit,  some stupid folks I work with did not realize that.  Let's see what happens when they get arrested.  Amen Auntie Christ et al.

gilbertdawgs
gilbertdawgs

Rednecks and their guns, what a damn shame! Watch officer involved shooting are going to increase with white males being the suspects. Enough will die and the bill will change

MacdonaldEric
MacdonaldEric

This decision will not keep the unstable or deranged from visiting houses of worship looking to inflict pain but it will lower the level of security.

Obama_Joke
Obama_Joke

It's mental health issues that need addressing, not gun control.


Back in the day (before the liberal midset and the black agenda was what this country was about) people who were crazy were put into state run mental institutions.  But the bleeding hearts put a stop to that.  Now, the crazy people walk among us and shoot up places of business, schools, et.

Bluedobee
Bluedobee

Gun control advocates love "Gun Free Zones" because they know that if there were no "Gun Free Zones" and legally armed citizens were able to defend others from a "mass" shooter, then they wouldn't be able to push their anti-gun agenda.

John-Atlanta
John-Atlanta

@Gunluvr Female pastor was beaten, robbed, and raped about a year ago in her church/school by an armed felon.  She was in the hospital for two weeks.  She needed the weapon when she was inside answering the door.  Police and the person she was talking to on the phone arrived AFTER he did all that.  They caught him because he was using her cell phone.  It was in the AJC, he got life, he should have been shot !  Like the woman in Lithonia did 9x with her .22LR to her rapist.  She only spent one night in the hospital.

John-Atlanta
John-Atlanta

@DaPoet Nothing quite like a Honey Baked Swine sandwich following an pagan Easter,  with some fertility egg rolling under a tree, instead of honouring Passover !

JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

@DaPoet  

Relax Tiger! Heck, it doesn't bother me that you speak in tongue, handle snakes, and insist the world is 4000 years old. So give ME a break and the latitude to embrace science AND worship the God of my understanding. Now back to the snake pit with you, little boy!.

Stuffy
Stuffy

This is the stupidest observation yet.

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

@AnnesNewsPaper They are both mutually inclusive for me; I'm a Catholic convert but I might have to go back to being a southern Baptist because of this.

tinala
tinala

Maybe the FEDS should investigate DEAL again and see how he got away with all the shady busniess deals that he did and the people ignored. One thing he can't undo is what he did to the state medica benefit planl and especially to TEACHERS. We didn't  have a  choice to chose our providers and we will REMEMBER. NO DEAL!

honested
honested

@metitotktodd  

I believe you are correct....

But you need to think for a moment about the tiny scared minority on the other side of the argument and how accurate your descriptors of them really are.

honested
honested

@JM64  

With 'responsible', do you mean those with sense enough to leave their guns at home?

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@JM64 I don't think reasonable people fear responsible gun owners, I know many of them, thus don't fear them. However they haven't found a way to design a license plate or emblem. or some such that allows me to distinguish which gun owners are 'responsible,' and which are suffering a dirty harry/george zimmerman complex. And that is the problem.

tinala
tinala

Your comment is sick and should be removed for being disrepectful and I'm not a catholic. Becuase, I guess you forgot about Jimmy Swaggert and Jim Swilley and the rest of the fornicating and homosexual preachers.

tinala
tinala

Why it a black agenda, is it because, we have an African-American President that it's now a black agenda and mindset. Some of you peoeple are so ignorant and stupid until quite frankly you aren't worth me typing this response to your ignorance.

honested
honested

@Obama_Joke  

oj,

Pray tell, who was President when they turned the 'crazies' out onto the street?

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Obama_Joke   What really burns me up is, when they bought that gun, they pinkie swore that they would only use it on bad guys. It's gotten to where you just can't trust mentally deranged people to keep their word, but don't let that stop you from advocating they, and everyone else, have wholesale access to guns

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Bluedobee Great analysis bluedobee, you've certainly exposed our secret agenda to the light of day. You see we set up Trayvonn Martin, the guy in the Tampa movie theater, the teen playing loud music, the alzheimer's patient who wandered into someone's back yard,  the teenage girl shot for knocking on a homeowner's door, and all those toddlers killed by their parent's guns. We set them all up to be shot by good guys with guns so we could further our gun control agenda. 

But we can't fool you, can we. You saw right through it.

honested
honested

@Bluedobee  

And if there were NO idiots in public carrying guns there would be NOTHING to worry about.

CARMS
CARMS

@JohnBoy10 @DaPoet  Well said!!!! Once again the Baptists only believe that their way is the only way.  It's actually quite scary how the Baptists have brought so much violence to people of color.  

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

@Stuffy No one from Chicago, DC, NY, NJ or CA can be trusted pertaining to gun rights as they  are just reflexively anti-gun. The Archbishop is a man of God but still a man.

AnnesNewsPaper
AnnesNewsPaper

Bless your heart.  That doesn't say much about how serious you are about conversion and your religious path.  You should really think about what you believe, examine your conscience and follow your heart.  Best wishes on your journey. 

tinala
tinala

I guess that goes for all the other Preachers who have left their wives and churches to follow their homosexual tendencies. Right?

LHardingDawg
LHardingDawg

He looks like he is still upset about losing his new house on Paces Ferry Rd.

ImRiteYurRong
ImRiteYurRong

@honested  If you believe that the responsible gun owners should not carry their defensive tools outside of their homes then you are NOT "pro-gun".

honested
honested

@Gunluvr @Stuffy 

I'm pro-gun, but I believe they should be left at home, a place where the gun owner is in control of the situation and the house rules.

Public areas are just that and creating a potential threat to everyone else to soothe you irrational fear is in no way 'anti-gun'.

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

@AnnesNewsPaper A lot of others are on the same "journey" as I am and I count Governor Deal as one of them, Bless his heart.

honested
honested

@Bluedobee @honested 

DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM WHOM?

While CREATING A THREAT FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!

Logic just doesn't work for you guys.

Bluedobee
Bluedobee

@honested @Bluedobee  And stopping decent people from being able to carry a weapon to potentially defend themselves or others from criminals or crazies who will always BE A THREAT is not right.  Will you take a bullet for me?  I doubt it.

honested
honested

@Bluedobee @honested 

Well, you are welcomed to think whatever you will.

I didn't say anything about restricting who has guns, just who has the opportunity to BE THE THREAT by toting them around where decent people are carrying on their lives.

Bluedobee
Bluedobee

@honested @Bluedobee  And I think anyone who insists that only government officials have guns is a communist and a fool!

honested
honested

@Bluedobee @honested 

Wrong again!

I think anyone who insists on carrying a gun (except sworn police officers) should be considered potentially a criminal!

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