Posted: 4:02 pm Tuesday, April 29th, 2014

King family: MLK statue bill clashes with guns, healthcare policy 

By Greg Bluestein

Gov. Nathan Deal at Tuesday's bill-signing ceremony to an MLK statue on Capitol grounds. Kent D. Johnson, kdjohnson@ajc.com

Gov. Nathan Deal is flanked by Martin Luther King III and Bernice King at Tuesday’s signing ceremony. Kent D. Johnson, kdjohnson@ajc.com

It’s rare to see both Bernice King and Martin Luther King III together outside of a courtroom. It’s rarer still to see them standing on either side of Republican Gov. Nathan Deal.

That’s the scene that unfolded Tuesday as Deal signed legislation that would put a statue of the civil rights icon on the statehouse grounds. But the event quickly took on political undertones.  VIEW PHOTOS FROM THE LEGISLATION SIGNING

King’s heir raised questions about the broad expansion of gun rights that Deal signed into law last week, and invoked the mass shooting at the FedEx center in Kennesaw. And the successor to King’s pulpit blasted the governor’s refusal to expand Medicaid as an “offensive contradiction” to the leader’s legacy.

The legislation, House Bill 1080, requires that the state put the civil rights icon’s statue on the capitol grounds or another prominent place. One potential is the new park to be built across the street, another is the site where the homage to segregationist Tom Watson once stood.

“Not many states can boast a native son who merited a national holiday, but we Georgians can,” said Deal. “Dr. King is a point of pride for our state, and he deserves to hold a place of honor on our Capitol grounds.”

Yet the shootings gave the event a somber tone. King III said the violence showed why Georgia’s gun rights expansion is dangerous. Said King III:

“The more guns that we have acquired, the higher our violence seems to go. Why we continue to go in that direction is certainly of  concern. It’s going to be challenging when civilians have guns and the police come and they try to create order … It’s a bit unfortunate to mandate a policy to say you can have guns in schools, bars and churches but you can’t bring them into the Capitol. To me that seems a little inconsistent.”

The Rev. Raphael Warnock, recently arrested at the statehouse as part of a Moral Monday protest, had harsher words on Deal’s refusal to expand Medicaid. The pastor, who head’s King’s Ebenezer Baptist Church, King would have fought for the expansion of Medicaid under President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul. Said Warnock:

“We are grateful for the monument. But Dr. King’s work has to do not with the building of monuments but with the building of a better world where everyone has healthcare. Dr. King deserves this monument. But I would call it a glaring and offensive contradiction to sign into law a monument in memory of Dr. King and deny healthcare for whom Dr. King died.”

Deal, for his part, would brook no debate on either issue. When asked about the critiques after the signing, he offered this:

“I want to focus on the piece of legislation that we sign today and that’s why I was here for that purpose. What has become law in other signings, I don’t think has relevance to this event.

95 comments
GhettoScum
GhettoScum

Medicaid as an “offensive contradiction” to the leader’s legacy.

JonRann
JonRann

We do not need gun control.  Laws will not stop criminals from using guns.  Criminals, by definition, do not obey the law.  Our bleeding heart leftists don't want to penalize criminals for using guns.  The NAACP & ACLU believe that penalizing violent felons for using guns is racist, after all, law abiding white citizens have guns.  These poor fools seem unable to see any difference...

Armydawg
Armydawg

Did they really think they could please the King lobby?  Hard core leftists are never satisfied, all they do it take, take, take.  Foolish legislators.

JohnBurningham
JohnBurningham

Why do we need another King monument?  Isn't the National Historic Site in town and a national holiday enough!  There are many other people who should be remembered for the deeds they did for society and to focus on one individual is not fair to the rest that gave their lives to support the freedoms we have today.

ChessMaster
ChessMaster

Dr. King's statue belongs in the new Liberty Plaza, where he can beseech our government to take care of our people. It's location would become a rallying point for those petitioning our state government.

lfelton
lfelton

Hey MLK III Chicago has some of the nations toughest gun laws and they also have the lowest murder rate in the country.....oh wait they have the highest murder rate.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

"What has become law in other signings, I don’t think has relevance to this event."  Nathan Deal April 29, 2014.  Hold up wait wasn't Dr. King violently gunned down?  Just saying.

LHardingDawg
LHardingDawg

Who cares what the King family thinks. Also, I see Calvin Smyre got his picture in the AJC. He and his wife are two of the biggest crooks in West Georgia.

Kamchak
Kamchak

What's the over/under on the number of times "gun free zone" is posted here today?

Just askin'.

OscarKnight
OscarKnight

....These Worthless Race Hustlers......Always Nagging when things don't go their way.  :) ....The shooting in Kennesaw had nothing to do with our Self Defense Laws, the shooting took place in a Gun Free Zone !!!!.

Rhettbutler
Rhettbutler

Give an inch.........they take a mile....bad idea for Georgia........


“We are elated by the proposed removal of the Tom Watson statue and we would like to see the statues of Sen. Richard Russell, Gov. Eugene Talmadge, and Confederate General John B. Gordon also removed from the State Capitol, as well as all the other statues which we consider offensive,” said Representative Brooks. “I link the removal of the Watson statue to the victory in the removal of the 1956 Georgia State Flag. But this is not the end of the situation or the problem. We must continue to petition the Governor and other state leaders that these old racist artifacts must be not only removed from the grounds of the Georgia State Capitol, but replaced by African-American, Native American, and Asian American monuments which represent the Georgia of today.”

DirtyDawg
DirtyDawg

Sadly, it seems that all the ability and heroism of the King family died in Memphis in '68...however the idiocy and wrongheaded 'leadership' of the Republicans reigns here in Georgia. Hopefully '14 will see a turnaround in that.

HarveyPooka
HarveyPooka

No Tax Dollars Allocated !!!     The King family and/or followers want a statue, they fund it and place it on private property.   Period.

Andy123
Andy123

Dr King must roll over in his grave daily when he thinks about useless and worthless his greedy kids have become. 

EdUktr
EdUktr

Bless Gov. Deal for having to share a podium with such prima donnas. Who among us could have handled it better?

Certainly not the unemployable malcontents populating this blog.

scrappy-22
scrappy-22

Deal is either incredibly moronic, or his followers are... wait, probably both...  You really see no correlation between honoring a leader in one moment and in the next signing laws that go against pretty much everything he stood for? 

Wonder if he used the same pen?

SouthGeorgiareader
SouthGeorgiareader

Well, Guv, if you think there's no relevance in these laws, just put on your thinking cap for a change.  The gun bill creates a new "mountain" of weapons as Mike Luckovich depicts in today's editorial cartoon, and you continue to add to another "mountain" of uninsured citizens by denying Medcaid expansion.  Dr. King worked to help the poor get better treatment and was killed with a gun.  Do you get it, Guv?

Joeleejohnson
Joeleejohnson

Which way could MLK's statue face without his tears being the relevant & appropriate feature?

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

But, the shooter too was a law-abiding gun carrier -- until he wasn't. That's the fallacy in the "law-abiding-carrier" objection to reasonable gun control. And, as to the merits of the "responsible-carrier" objection, just ask one the limits of liability on the self-defense and gun personal liability insurance that he/she "carries" as well. It will be the rare case if the question is even comprehended.

glockowner
glockowner

well the shooting at fed ex is the no guns allowed there free fire zone

all law abiding gun carriers followed the law.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

td1234

Before you shutdown for the night tell the blog how you were blogging during the service awhile back.

Or was it that you lied (here we go again with your "stories") about being in church and had to tap dance when asked why you were blogging when you claimed to be at church?

Either way it was one of your best stories.  

Thanks and have a good night. 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

If td1234 had to go a day without lying or purposely taking something out of context would he be able blog? 


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

I wonder what the annual State commission payment is to the King boys for allowing the State to put the MLK statue on the Capital lawn?

Frankie581000
Frankie581000

Hey Martin.....yes a white kid shot up a workplace today, but I have a question for you and Warnock.....during the last 2 weeks FOURTEEN black citizens have been gunned down or killed...where is your outrage over this, we haven't seen or heard a peep from you or Warnock, NOT ONCE!!...you and Warnock only show you faces when there are cameras around and it is convenient like today!! Where is your public OUTRAGE over the 15 yr old that was EXECUTED, where is your concern when black citizens are being gunned down, which lately has been nightly in SW Atlanta.....

honesttruthbetold
honesttruthbetold

These kids of the great DR. King are always looking to profit off his legacy or want to jump in when the cameras are around as if they are protecting his legacy. If they honestly cared they would be in the inner city trying to help clean up the mess. Or how about how that sorry mayor Kassim accountable how he keeps lying about fixing mlk blvd we all know that's lip service and bs. But I would imagine they are in his pocket so all is well, I would of been demanding money be spent to clean up mlk blvd until something was done  they have the name and frankly power to make that happen.  This town is a joke  black folks struggled for decades and look at all the corruption and pathetic leaders in Atlanta its a joke. And im a black man saying that.

honesttruthbetold
honesttruthbetold

Even as a black man here in Atlanta I have to agree Dr. Kings kids are so sorry  its almost a shame at how they carry themselves go back and forth and court against each other. I have 0 respect for them, they could be doing so much good and positive things just for the name sake. but instead they are more interested in being celebrities or being on camera. no integrity, greedy, selfish, sorry excuse for the children of a civil rights icons. They could be doing so much with that platform can you imagine.  Sorry if anyone disagrees  but a spade is a spade  and boy are they sorry  and that's the god honest truth.

adarian652
adarian652

Lets put a statue of Nathan Deal and Sherman facing each other

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

Bread crumbs to the righteous in exchange for staying quiet about the fascist movement to withhold healthcare and arm the neo-Confederates and KKK.  Will they be that easily placated?

td1234
td1234

I think the ten commandment display should go right up beside the MLK statue to remind the progressives that the man lead civil rights movement based on Christian values, mores and ethics. 

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@JohnBurningham   "Why do we need another King monument?" 

Because it is an election year, and a sitting governor polling at 40% realizes he has to pander to get any and every vote he can. The removal of watson's statue, and the proposal for the King statue, are just that, blatant pandering of a desperate politician.  Erecting the monument is the right thing to do, but as with any time a republican does what is right, they are doing it for the wrong reason.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@JohnBurningham


"Why do we need another King monument?," you ask.


We need to honor MLK, Jr. on the state's Capitol grounds because he was a man of a century, or of many centuries, whose consciousness, moral impact, and self-sacrifice transcended that of others of his time.  Just as Abraham Lincoln was the man of consciousness and self-sacrifice for the betterment for others, living and yet to be born, for the 19th century, Martin Luther King, Jr. was the man of consciousness and self-sacrifice for the better of others of the 20th century.

honested
honested

@LHardingDawg  

I must ask, where do you rate lynn westmoreland and 'crazy' barry loudermilk?

HonJL
HonJL

@HarveyPooka Amen Bro. if any statue goes up it will be a found knights member. Rise up white people.

RoryD
RoryD

@BuckheadBoy So we should just strip everyone of their rights... because they could possibly break the law in the future?

GB101
GB101

@BuckheadBoy  You are right in a very narrow way.  He was law abiding until he wasn't.  However, many crimes are committed by people who have not theretofore been law abiding.  Most people who commit crimes commit more than one.


Regarding insurance: I do not know what "self defense and gun personal liability insurance" is.  I know a bit about liability insurance, but I am unaware of coverage that specifically covers this.  There is liability insurance for lots of things, and most people's personal liability coverage is on their homeowners policy.  And over that many people have an umbrella policy.  Coverage for some incident involving a gun would apply or not depending on all kinds of circumstances.  


What specifically are you referring to?

Andy123
Andy123

@Frankie581000

In 2011, according to the FBI, blacks were responsible for 37% of the homicides while whites were responsible for 32%.    What percentage of the population is black male again? 

HonJL
HonJL

@honesttruthbetold Amen, finally one of you people tell it like it is. Why don't you get on TV and show your people the truth. Maybe you can teach them to behave and get jobs too.

Chris30338
Chris30338

@td1234 You talking about the Ten Commandments that most people in the Statehouse don't follow, don't intend to follow and would be a stretch if they remembered more than 4 or 5???

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@td1234


Td, I do not think that you understand that many progressives are deeply spiritual. I think that MLK Jr. was one of those deeply spiritual progressives because he was not content with the status quo, but was, instead, a visionary who wanted all people to fulfill the best in human nature by loving God and loving all others as themselves.

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@td1234  Are you referring to your "christian values" of hate, discrimination and bigotry or the real "Christian" values of love, forgiveness, helping the poor and healing the sick? We don't want your values TD...but real "Christian" values.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234   I'll go along with that, if at the same time we periodically assemble a bunch of white bigots to throw rocks and brickbats, curse at and spit on the statue, to remind the cons how MLK was treated here in the good christian bible belt, ie a fine example of those Christian values, mores and ethics. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Georgians don't need the single Christianity religion based document to be displayed by the government for mores and ethics.  Lots of religions and societies have such.  We don't live in a theocracy.

StraightNoChaser
StraightNoChaser

@JohnBurningham "“We got all the complaints of the ghetto grandmothers who didn’t have birth certificates and all that."  ~~~Nathan Deal October 5, 2009.  To this day this statement by Nathan Deal is still circulating throughout the black community....It's going to take more than a statue to get our votes. 

Signed

Black GA voter.

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

@GB101 @BuckheadBoy For example, you can review on the NRA website those specific coverages, which the organization makes available to members at very reasonable rates.

My point is, if you're shot wrongly by a law enforcement officer, there is recourse to the deep pockets of government. However, if you're shot wrongly by some self-appointed vigilante, like say Zimmerman, or an addled old man because you turned into his driveway in error, there's generally no pockets. Consequently, I'm tired of hearing about the "responsible gun owner" from people who have little concept of what that should mean and advocate measures, such as stand-your-ground, intended to shield from responsibility.   

td1234
td1234

@MaryElizabethSings  But the party you support have most if not all the non-believers in it. Heck they denied God three times at their last convention in public. 

Chris30338
Chris30338

@AuntieChrist All those good ole church going Southern boys and gals called Dr. King "Un-American"  a "Commie" and a "Russian agent" for trying to destroy their Southern way of life. After all, Scripture allowed for slaves and allowing the Colored and White races to mix was just "unnatural" and lead to all kinds of (gasp) perversions! Coloreds needed to know their place and it certainly wasn't where Whites ate, drank, went to church or to school.  Rosa Parks??? Troublemaker if they ever saw one! Just didn't know her place!!!

You talking about the wonderful Christians I just described?

RoryD
RoryD

@BuckheadBoy @GB101Oh, so if you are an old lady sitting at home watching TV and the police raid your home by accident and shoot you dead... you have a recourse?

Or, in reality, the officers are given a few hours of counseling and sent back on the street to do it again. If you are going to compare this to accountability of police officers... you will lose. Police are held to a much lower standard, and commit crimes at a higher rate than licensed gun owners as a whole.

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows  Yes, most of the non-believers are going to flock to the party as you progressives like to say are controlled by the evangelical wing. 


Do you know how dang stupid your last comment sounded? 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @MaryElizabethSings 

That doesn't back up your claim of "most if not all".

Is there a reason you can't back that up?

Are you still sure about that "if not all"?.

I'm sure that as usual you do not know what you are talking about

td1234
td1234

@MaryElizabethSings  Wow, you progressives are on the attack tonight.


What was it when the convention denied adding the word God to their platform? 


The truth does not live and you can watch the truth for yourselves and decide. The rank and file Democrats denied God three times before the leadership of the party ignored them and placed it in the platform any way. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtKd005fxnM

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@td1234


That is not true, td.


Moreover, many who call themselves believers do not practice what they say they believe in.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@td1234

Lying makes the baby Jesus cry.

Why do you hate the baby Jesus?

Just askin'.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Kind of amazing all of the Scriptures that so many Christians ignore.  'Turn the other cheek', 'don't bear false witness', 'give up your possessions to help the poor'...

So first century, I guess....

GaBlue
GaBlue

@td1234


You violate the Ninth Commandment when you tell lies about your fellow citizens. And YES, that's what you're doing when you make assertions about people you've never met because you engage in the very lazy practice of lumping them all together under a label that's convenient for you. Just thought you should know.

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