Posted: 7:55 am Friday, April 25th, 2014

John Barge’s ‘internal struggle’ with the gun bill 

By Greg Bluestein and Daniel Malloy

Superintendent John Barge knows it could get him in trouble with the GOP electorate. But the Republican gubernatorial candidate is backing off his statement that he was “good” with the sweeping gun law his opponent Gov. Nathan Deal signed into law this week.

Gov. Nathan Deal and state schools Superintendent John Barge, one of his GOP challengers.

Gov. Nathan Deal and state schools Superintendent John Barge, one of his GOP challengers.

Barge said it came after an “internal struggle” that raged most of Thursday. Ultimately, he decided he was against a provision in the law that allows people with permits to carry guns into bars after learning it would not let bar owners “opt in.”

“Being the child of an alcoholic, I know that alcohol causes people to do some not so smart things. I thought it was still in an opt-in situation for bars. I realize now that it was taken out, and I have got a big concern with that. I don’t know if that’s the wisest thing.”

Any opposition for the gun bill is dicey territory, particularly for a Republican. Some more strident gun rights groups argued that the new law, which takes effect in July, didn’t go far enough. Another GOP candidate, David Pennington, said Friday in an interview that the bill was still too restrictive. And even Democrat Jason Carter, his party’s nominee for governor, supported the law.

Barge said he’s ready for the fallout.

“I know that people are going to be furious,” he said. “But I’m running on a campaign of integrity and I’m not afraid of speaking my mind.”

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Erick Erickson’s endorsement of U.S. Senate candidate Karen Handel is going beyond the broadcast booth.

The WSB radio personality taped a robo-call for Handel that went out to 350,000 GOP primary voters. He calls her an “unwavering, principled conservative.”

You can hear Erickson’s call here, but know that not everyone was amused.

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Another WSB heavyweight is getting more deeply involved in local politics.

Former presidential candidate Herman Cain is backing Jef Fincher, one of the two challengers trying to oust long-serving state Rep. Brooks Coleman in the GOP primary. Peach Pundit reports that Cain will be a special guest at a fundraiser for Fincher next week.

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Democrats had a packed crowd at the Jefferson-Jackson fundraiser last night. And, almost as importantly for the audience, they managed to finish up before the Hawks playoff game next door got finished.

The keynote speaker, James Carville, had a lot of biting one-liners. But here’s one of the best:

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State Sen. Vincent Fort says he’s given fellow Democrat Alisha Thomas Morgan hundreds of dollars over the years. Now he wants his money back from the superintendent candidate because of her “collaboration with right-wing Republican enemies of public education.” From his letter:

“You have voted for tax credit vouchers for private schools. These tax credit vouchers have siphoned off tens of millions of dollars that could have been used to support public education. You also have voted for and worked to pass the 2012 charter school amendment … Therefore, I am asking you to immediately reimburse me for the money I have contributed to you so that I may use those funds to support candidates who will defend public education not undermine it.”

Fort and other Democratic leaders have lined up behind Valarie Wilson, a former Decatur school board member, in an increasingly bitter intra-party conflict.

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The five GOP candidates vying to take on U.S. Rep. John Barrow gathered in Augusta on Thursday evening for a debate in which there were few fireworks but an interesting exchange between state Rep. Delvis Dutton and former Congressional staffer John Stone.

Dutton said, “We have to make sure the federal government stays out of our water rights.” The line prompted this rebuttal from Stone:

“It shows a lack of understanding that the biggest issues we face in our water issues is the Corps of Engineers, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, EPA. You’re going to have to tackle those agencies to control what you’re able to do with our water in this district.”

Dutton replied: “Yes, I completely agree that we have to tackle the Corps of Engineers, EPA and [the state Environmental Protection Division]. I’ve done that for four years [in the state House]. I would love to see ‘em closed and defunded.”

We followed up with Dutton after the debate — did he really mean he wants to close the Army Corps of Engineers?

“I didn’t say Corps of Engineers,” he said. “I said EPA and EPD.”

Dutton clarified that he supports the Corps’ mission, including the expansion of the Savannah Harbor. He simply meant “the Corps needs to be allowed to do the job without intruding on the private property rights of the states.”

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Stone’s ad in which he fires a cannon is getting some national attention. But we’re told there is only $1,100 behind it, for now, on cable stations around the district.

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Former state House Majority Whip Ed Lindsey is putting considerably more dough — literally — behind this new ad in his campaign for the 11th District U.S. House seat. He appears to be the first one on the air in expensive Atlanta in the race to replace Rep. Phil Gingrey.

Lindsey is spending $20,000 in the next few days on broadcast, according to FCC filings. Viewers will see him goaltend, chop wood and deliver a pizza.

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Sincerest form of flattery alert: North Carolina U.S. Senate candidate Mark Harris is changing his campaign website after a report that he had copied passages from U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey.

Republican consultant Tom Perdue, who is working for Harris and oversaw the writing of his website, said that a group of five college students had pulled information for his statements together based on issue statements of current politicians, including governors and Senators. The similarities were a result of his not reading over the statements closely enough, he said, blaming himself.

“There was no plagiarism intended,” Perdue said. “It was a total accident.”

You may recall Tom Perdue was also Sen. Saxby Chambliss’ campaign consultant.

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One of the AJC’s web wizards has put together an interactive graphic on all the U.S. Senate candidates that includes bio information, links to campaign finance data and all sorts of other cool stuff. Bookmark it here.

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The Senate candidate tool also links to all of the candidates’ ads. Here’s a new entry from Karen Handel, that covers a lot of ground in 30 seconds — including calling out her opponents and bringing up David Perdue’s “high school graduate” remarks.

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Jason Carter’s campaign is getting some more star power – and another hint that his grandfather will play a growing role in his bid.

We’ll send on a recording when we get one …

87 comments
Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

"  Barge will get at least 25% of the vote from teacher and state employees. If Dems crossover and a few more Republican votes then he could pull the upset. "


td1234 must really be Tattoo from Fantasy Island.


Barge isn't even going to cause a run off.  His anecdotal evidence from that Facebook page he has referenced is still about as funny as it gets and td1234 provides great entertainment.


But he has his Barge cheer-leader outfit and bloomers on.  Good for him.

td1234
td1234

I will be happy when Ed Lindsey is put out of his misery and sent back into private life. To bad he does not have to give up the practice of law,  . 

lvg
lvg

Guy who blew away  a guy looking into his car at Southlake Mall and thought victim was trying to steal his car had a legitimate right to shoot the victim according to Deal. Right to protect property is not an afterthought under second amendment. Wait till granny and gramps get confused and try to drive off with the wrong car  after shopping.

td1234
td1234

Early voting begins Monday. Vote for Barge to retire Deal and if you live in Gilmer or Fannin county then vote for Snider to retire Ralston. 

anothercomment
anothercomment

This is why John Barge will pick up a lot of cross over votes in May.

Does anyone know what it is like when your subordinate employees make a mistake hiring an employee who is a Vet. Then you as the higher level supervisor get the dirty task of always having to be the one to give the official termination letter. Of course, when you pull up the DD-214 it indicates he has sniper badge from the military. My moronic male supervisors would have known if they simple called the previous employer confirmed dates, then asked is he eligible for rehire at your facility and gotten the No. realized their was a huge Gap, He was fired from a Federal Job. He had a less than Honorable discharge. Less than two years of military service. Then when my Administrative Office asked HR to do a full background check, which meant pull what only law enforcement can see. They responded do you want to wear a bullet proof vest to give him the letter or do you want an armed police officer. I said I am too small a bullet proof vest will be noticeable. Please provide an armed police officer in the next room and I will leave my phone line open to that office. They refused to tell me exactly what came back on the background check. But, I have a pretty good feeling that the gap in employment was spent in prison. The minute, I told this guy today would be his last day, he would be paid for thirty days and escorted off property for leaving a few facts off his job application, the armed police officer came in and grabbed him and walked him out. Pretty scary situation!

mrob
mrob

Do any one think this dangerous gun law may very well hurt Metro-Atlanta housing market as it try to rebound? Will families relocate to buy here? 

mrob
mrob

The gun battle have just begun. It's an arms race now. Be careful out there!

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

Pure psychosis.  The yahoos are shooting each other.

NWGAL
NWGAL

An asst. DA was just shot. everyone in govt. should be issued bullet proof clothing.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Good for Dr. John Barge for speaking out against this dangerous gun bill. I have said before that I will cross over and vote for him for Governor in the Republican primary.  This statement by Dr. Barge reaffirms my commitment to casting my vote for him in the Republican primary.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

1. Not one Road Kill Possum Republican can describe how they can conceal an AR-15 at church or a bar in the summertime.  

2. I have heard the liberal media report of shootings at church because of a domestic dispute surrounding the pastor or deacon not following two of the ten commandments, or because a social conservative had a problem with a  physician's type of practice, and forgot the ten commandments.

lvg
lvg

Judge Alito specifically mentioned bars, schools and churches as placees a state may want legitimately to restrict guns as wella s other laws based on public safety. But heck what does he know about the second amendment? It is probably an afterthought for him.

CuriousPrime
CuriousPrime

1. How many times have we heard that Jim Bob was drunk and didn't know what he was doing.

2, Billy Bubba was drunk and doesn't remember anything that he did last night.  


Remember these two examples when you go into a bar or club and 98% of the people there look like you, and they support the new gun law.  

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

But he has his Barge cheer-leader outfit and bloomers on. Good for him.

LOL

honested
honested

@td1234  

I'm no ed lindsey fan, but he stand head and shoulders above the other certifiable kooks running for that Congressional seat!

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

@lvgYou need to apply Republican logic to feel better about this. Gun owners are all deemed law-abiding and responsible, until they're not. Then they're deemed to be criminal. Hence, you have nothing to fear from guns everywhere, except for the criminals. Kind of asinine, I know; but remember, I said that this is Republican logic.

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@mrob  

I can see it hurting external investment in the state more than the housing market.  Though I guess that would itself indirectly hurt the housing market.  

I would imagine the decaying and inadequate infrastructure and general lack of appeal are bigger hurdles.  Heck, I left...but I didn't bother trying to sell my house. 

anothercomment
anothercomment

And her father is one of Ellis un indicted co-conspiriters, political operative of the Cascade Elite and South Dekalb eLite Kevin Ross. The same guy that was involved with Bill Campbell when he went down.

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@MaryElizabethSings  

It's Mr. Barge.  Only MDs and PhDs get the prefix 'Dr.' tagged onto their names.


Mitchellbrooks
Mitchellbrooks

@CuriousPrime  

What does concealing have to do with anything?  In GA, how one carries is completely up to them, openly or concealed. 

Mitchellbrooks
Mitchellbrooks

@lvg  

And states to regulate carry in such places. Most people don't know (or won't admit this) but GA is one of only a small group of states that prior to HB60 becoming law actually explicitly banned carry in places of worship.    Not sure why everyone thinks it's such a big deal that GA is now with a majority of states on that particular subject. 

td1234
td1234

@CuriousPrime  Are there more shootings in Georgia involving Billy Bob or Jay Z, especially at bars? 

td1234
td1234

@honested @td1234  Barry is a good guy that I could vote for if I lived in the district. Ed is a total scumbag.

td1234
td1234

@honested @td1234 It is not a waste of a vote because there is a chance of succeeding unlike a vote for Carter or Nunn is a total waste of a vote because they could not win in a Red state. 

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@Baumer_1


Hopefully, you meant that comment playfully, as tongue-in-cheek.  If not, please start putting your priorities on substance, not on titles.


honested
honested

@Mitchellbrooks @CuriousPrime 

It is a shame the new law didn't require OPEN carry with the weapon clearly identified (preferably requiring large, flourescent orange handgrips).

That might help explain to those who can't leave the house without a popgun how unwelcome they and their little friend were at most establishments.

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@td1234 @CuriousPrime 

Jay Z is from New York, not Atlanta.

You pose an interesting question...despite the fact it is couched in your racist lingo.

Shootings are one thing, murders are another.  There has to be data on this somewhere.  Anecdotally, though, I do recall seeing more shootings and gun-murders in the newspapers and local news feature white perps. 

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

tiny dog, word to the wise, everybody outside wrong-wing circles refers to him as 'crazy loudermilk'.

Wonder why?

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Barge had nothing to do with 'the number of kids taking and passing AP tests, so let's not even entertain that fantasy.

I wasn't one who hated Math 1,2,3,4 so I can't really view it as an 'accomplishment'.

Realistically, the difference between 'graduation tests' and end of 'coarse' tests is, well, nothing.

The acceptance for a need of renewed Vocational Education was underway before barges's last election, so no roses there.....

So we're back to where we started, barge's 'accomplishments' are a big ole' goose egg!

td1234
td1234

@honested @td1234  Do not forget he ended the Math 1,2,3,4 curriculum, ended the HS graduation test in favor of End of coarse test and brought back the vocational and technical track. Georgia also now leads the entire nation in the total number of kids taking and passing AP test. All this while budget are being cut.


If you do not think these are accomplishments then I do not know what to tell you.

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Wow he can point to his remarkable achievements in the Superintendents office, which include....................................................................

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Oh yeah, aside from see class sizes increase, budgets decrease and for-profits allowed in the door, he has done NOTHING!

td1234
td1234

@honested @td1234  Barge will get at least 25% of the vote from teacher and state employees. If Dems crossover and a few more Republican votes then he could pull the upset. 


If he loses I predict he either takes a county Superintendents job (for a lot more money) or works for an education think tank (like the Gates foundation).

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Don't worry tiny dog, barge will get his 5-6% of the vote, and then he will have to decide if he has any marketable skills.

I, for one, predict he has a sudden urge to convert to the for-profit-charter-voucher disease, and sell it like it has been his idea all along.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@The-Centrist


Not necessarily.  One may earn either a Ph.D. in education or an Ed.D. in education.  Columbia University awarded the first Ph.D. in education in 1893 and Harvard University awarded the first Ed.D. in education in 1921.  Dr. Barge earned a doctorate from UGA, as you mentioned, in educational leadership.

The-Centrist
The-Centrist

Per his website, he has a 'doctorate from UGA".

Wouldn't that be a PhD?

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@Baumer_1


I read the details in your post, and, again, I write to you, "please start putting your priorities (and focus) on substance, not on titles."  Dr. Barge earned his doctorate in education, which you are trying to disparage by not acknowledging that fact with respect. It appears you are biased in your thinking regarding the competency of educators. Moreover, it appears to me that you cannot see that yourself because of your perceived self-importance. From the content and caliber of your post, you appear petty to me, as an individual.  Not all physicians or PhDs are as small-minded as you appear to be.  Shame on you for your pettiness and for your contempt for, and ignorance of, both educators and educational processes. 

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@MaryElizabethSings  

It was not tongue-in-cheek. As a doctor with both an MD and a PhD it drives me absolutely crazy to hear the title applied incorrectly. Especially when it is done for political purposes...as in the case of Mr. John Barge or Mr. Bill Greene.  He and his followers use it as a means of conveying creditability where they have none.

As for substance, how about this: some educational leader (which is what Mr. Barge's degree is in), GA still has a graduation rate below 70% and some of the worse test scores in the country. Way to lead the education system Mr. John Barge.

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested@Mitchellbrooks 

They Representative is a Democrat which makes him acceptable. The 'senator' is a wrong wing nut who would sell his mother for a couple of votes. Just your kind of guy.

And yes, they are well aware of my views.

honested
honested

@Mitchellbrooks  

'open carry is more frowned upon'......

No genius CARRY PERIOD is frowned upon by most civilized people. 

You go to great lengths to ignore that simple fact!

Mitchellbrooks
Mitchellbrooks

@honested  

Some states do legislate manner of carry.  GA for example use to require a holster for handguns, but hasn't for a while.  FL requires concealed carry. Some states allow open carry without a license, but require a license to carry concealed.  Laws are all over the map.  I've had a GA LEO insist that my license required concealed carry, so even LEO's in many cases do not know the law.


Someone on another thread mentioned our forefathers not liking concealed carry, and that is correct.  They looked upon concealed carry as sneaky and cowardly like a gambler with a hidden Derringer and instead preferred open carry of weapons.


Now days I would say open carry is frowned upon more than concealed carry.

honested
honested

@Mitchellbrooks  

Which is why I would certainly have preferred the new law to include the stipulations I stated above!

Mitchellbrooks
Mitchellbrooks

@Baumer_1 


What?  Actually, no, it wasn't.  Where do you folks come up with some of this stuff? The legislation was about carry, concealed or open. There is no distinction in GA.

There is no such thing as a CCW or CWP in GA..  It is a GWCL, Georgia Weapon Carry License and anywhere you can carry open you can carry concealed and vice versa. 

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