Posted: 9:06 am Wednesday, April 23rd, 2014

Democratic Party has slight trust edge in Georgia poll 

By Greg Bluestein, Daniel Malloy and Jim Galloway

There’s lots to dig into from this State of the State poll from the folks at Georgia College. Cam McWhirter at the Wall Street Journal has the headline that could cause Georgia’s GOP leadership some concern:

When asked which party they trusted most to lead the state in the next four years, 40.2% chose the Democratic Party while 36.9% chose the GOP. More than 15% chose other parties and 7.6% didn’t give an answer.

“You could read that as a response to a party that has been dominating and maybe we are getting close to shifting,” said Costas Spirou, who is chairman of the college’s Department of Government and Sociology.

Your daily jolt on politics from the AJC's Political insider blog

About 51% of whites polled said they trusted the Republican Party, and only 24.6% of whites trusted the Democratic Party. But 77.9% of blacks supported the Democrats, and only 9.3% of blacks backed the GOP. Hispanic voters, a fast-growing part of the Georgia electorate, were split, with 30.4% backing the GOP and 29.9% backing the Democratic Party. Almost 40% of Hispanics polled supported third parties.

The Democratic advantage is within the poll’s margin of error.

More interesting numbers: Gov. Nathan Deal is the most trusted Republican, with 16.7 percent tapping him. Silver medal to Saxby Chambliss at 13.2 percent.

Former Gov. Roy Barnes is the most trusted Democrat at 20.1 percent, followed by John Lewis at 11.9 percent.

Georgians also trust the federal government slightly more than governments closer to home. And 59.6 percent disagree with the decision not to expand Medicaid (38.8 percent strongly disagree). But 50.8 percent oppose Obamacare — with 41 percent strongly opposed.

There’s agreement that public money should not go to pro sports stadiums (76.2 percent no) while it should go to deepening the Savannah Port (56.3 percent yes).

Full results here. The poll was conducted in February of 500 adults via landline and cell phone interviews, with a 4.4 percentage point margin of error.

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Rep. Phil Gingrey ditches the lab coat in his new ad and lets Patti Saylor do the talking. Saylor’s son, Paul, drowned in Iraq after his Humvee ran off the road, but by the time his body got back to Bremen it was decomposed and not viewable.

Gingrey and other members of the Georgia delegation worked to change the process on embalming soldiers. Saylor praises him in the spot for helping get answers about what happened to her son. The 30-second TV spot is below and the longer web version is here.

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Businessman David Perdue is putting more of his personal wealth on the line ahead of the May 20 primary. His full disclosure with the Federal Election Commission reveals that Perdue moved $250,000 that he had loaned his campaign for the runoff into a donation to the primary campaign.

That changes his cash on hand at the end of March to $950,000 (instead of the $700,000 Perdue’s camp told us at the filing deadline, before the decision to move the money around). Perdue’s personal contribution to the race, in combined contributions and loans, stood at $1.6 million.

Another interesting nugget from the disclosure: Professional golfer Matt Kuchar chipped in $2,600 to the Perdue campaign.

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It’s considered the longest of long shots. But Atlanta is still in the running to host the 2016 Democratic National Convention.

The DNC has asked Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and 14 other city leaders to submit formal bids to host the event, which could cost as much as $60 million.

Our fair town faces stiff competition, chief among them Columbus, in the heart of the swing state of Ohio. CNN reports that Columbus has been “lobbying hard” to land the convention:

At a DNC meeting in February, Columbus officials hosted a reception highlighting reasons why the city should be the site for the Democratic National Convention. While 15 cities received RFPs on Monday, a DNC official noted that other cities could request an RFP and be considered as a host city.

No love for Atlanta on the GOP side. Republicans narrowed their list of potential host cities to six earlier this month. Two Ohio cities, Cincinnati and Cleveland, are also among those finalists.

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Republicans are taking advantage of the latest Supreme Court decision tearing down limits on campaign donations. Politico has more:

According to documents filed with the Federal Election Commission, the newly formed Republican Victory Fund is a joint fundraising committee composed of the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee and the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The new entity will allow Republicans to host fundraising events soliciting checks of nearly $100,000 from wealthy donors. …

Previously, joint fundraising efforts haven’t been able to solicit more than about $70,000 — which about the maximum amount a donor could give to parties and candidates prior to the McCutcheon decision.

With the limit gone, joint fundraising is poised to become a new tool in the fundraising arsenal for campaigns and parties.

There’s also the Senators Classic Committee — originally founded by Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss and his buddy Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C. — that the Washington Post points out is raising max checks for 19 GOP Senate candidates at once.

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Former Democratic Party of Georgia chair Mike Berlon’s legal troubles didn’t end when he resigned from office last year amid growing criticism.

The Daily Report says he’s under criminal investigation and has filed for bankruptcy. From the story:

A Gwinnett County attorney who chaired the Georgia Democratic Party has admitted he took nearly $1 million from former clients, faces a trial against another former client this month—and may face criminal charges.

Gwinnett District Attorney Danny Porter said this week that his office is investigating Michael Berlon, though Porter would not disclose what specific criminal accusations are involved.

“There is a pending investigation based on a referral from the State Bar that we received about two months ago,” Porter said.

Berlon was head of the Georgia Democrats from 2011 until mid-2013. He stepped down after the AJC documented his mounting legal issues, including a reprimand by the Georgia Supreme Court and lawsuits by former clients. His replacement, DuBose Porter, will be front and center on Thursday evening with the party’s marquee Jefferson-Jackson fundraising dinner.

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State Superintendent John Barge wants to remind voters why he’s challenging Gov. Nathan Deal in the GOP primary. He sent out a two-page open letter saying he gets questioned about his longshot bid virtually every day.

His answer:

“Because I am tired. I am tired of the same old politics; leadership whose morals, values and principles are for sale to the highest bidder and leadership that lines its own pockets while the most vulnerable in the state suffer. I believe the people of Georgia deserve a leader who will actually lead, and do so from a foundation of moral integrity and a desire to do what is right.”

You can read the entire dispatch here.

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In the Savannah-based First District Congressional race, GOP surgeon Bob Johnson is up with a new ad that features his bio and desire to “end this liberal nightmare.”

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Georgia House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams has been tapped as a rising star by Emily’s List, a group that backs women who support abortion rights. Click here for more from our colleague Aaron Gould Sheinin:

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U.S. Rep. John Lewis is in Dublin today. Not the South Georgia one.

112 comments
JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

Let's hope the populace of the once great state of Georgia is sick and tired of watching the Radical Right Wing trying to out crazy each other - creationism, not evolution taught is high school science classes, guns, guns, guns everywhere, no standardized tests for students - well, because we all know how well our states school kids are doing....the list is too long to really get started.

Deal was palatable at one time - no longer. He and his crooked cronies have shown their true colors and it is not a pretty picture!

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

With more Georgians now trusting Democrats, Georgia has a chance of returning to a more humane and balanced state by repealing this unreasonable, and even dangerous, gun law, and by expanding Medicaid as part of the ACA.

PatrickThompson
PatrickThompson

Gingrey stands behind the military as a shield but does little for them or veterans while paying homage to defense contractors...he's another pretender contender for the Chambliss seat

Numbers_R_Us
Numbers_R_Us

Georgia Republicans show their lack of education as well as their love of the unethical.

MHSmith
MHSmith

... Georgia's share of Medicaid expansion will be $100 million a year?

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Is $100 million a year all it would take to fund Georgia's share of a Medicaid expansion?

I can come up with a solution to obtaining that amount of money and do it in a "very conservative" consumption tax manner without taking one penny from the present state budget or raising any compulsory taxes  by a cent. 

Tax Payments—Commercial Casinos 

In the 23 states with commercial casinos in operation in 2012, casinos contributed $8.60 billion in tax revenue to state and local governments, a 8.5 percent increase over 2011 figures. The revenue from those taxes benefits education, public safety, economic development and infrastructure improvements, among other state and local programs. All figures below, unless otherwise noted, are for calendar year 2012.

 http://www.americangaming.org/industry-resources/research/fact-sheets/tax-payments-commercial-casinos

By the way, the moral question concerning gambling has already been answered - The GA lottery is gambling!

NWGAL
NWGAL

With the passage of this new gun bill allowing rifles with silencers, the Democrats should not have a convention here. Snipers would be free to slaughter with a much smaller chance of capture.

EdUktr
EdUktr

"... only 24.6% of whites trusted the Democrat Party."

Kind of highlights the fact you white AJC liberals are a true anomaly, eh Jim?

td1234
td1234

Still no answers as to how the progressives would pay for the expansion of Medicaid in the state since income tax is about to be taken off the table. 


Cut Education? 

Cut college spending?

EPA? 

Future raises to teachers and state employees? 

DFCS staff (can not do that because who is going to hand out the freebies). 


What is the answer?

Jke
Jke

Trust:  "The Democratic advantage is within the poll’s margin of error."  With all the ink and bandwidth spent by the AJC on the Governor's "ethics problems" it sure is interesting to note that within the margin of error voters trust or distrust the parties equally.  Just sayin'  

Andy123
Andy123

Keep voting for those Democrats black people because 60 years of your people being primarily raised from cradle to the grave by the Democrats has afforded your race next to nothing as far as wealth and education.  If 9 out of 10 children in my race were going to eat from food stamps before they turned 18, I'd vote Democrat too so I see your point of view. 

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

Why is the GOP looking to cities for their convention?


They hate cities.  

Is 'real America' not good enough for the RNC convention?  Maybe they could consider holding it in one of those freedom loving, laissez-faire, market-capitalist economies...North Korea and China (outside of Hong Kong) come to mind.  So to do Uganda...where they persecute homosexuals, so that is really up the GOP's alley.  What is great about these places is that they are all real world versions of the Ayn Rand economy. No labor laws, no unions, no minimum, no welfare system, no social safety net of any kind really, the wealthy...sorry, job creators, have the ultimate say in both the economic and political spheres and the People of these countries just accept their role as second class citizens.


Anybody else have a suggestion?

JamVet
JamVet

"Rep. Phil Gingrey ditches the lab coat in his new ad..."

The freeloader needs a straight jacket, not a lab coat...

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

Here are some nuggets that td left out of his analysis (surprise, surprise!) of the Kaiser Report:

The additional state cost of implementing the Medicaid expansion is small relative to total state Medicaid spending. The incremental cost to states of implementing the Medicaid expansion would be $8 billion from 2013-2022, representing a 0.3% increase over what they would spend under the ACA without the expansion.


Accounting for factors that reduce costs, states as a whole are likely to see net savings from the Medicaid expansion.Combining Medicaid costs with a conservative estimate of $18 billion in state and local non-Medicaid savings on uncompensated care, the Medicaid expansion would save states a total of $10 billion over 2013-2022, compared to the ACA without the expansion.


Under the ACA Medicaid expansion, states would spend less on uncompensated care, and providers as a whole would receive more revenue than under ACA with no states expanding Medicaid. If all states adopted the Medicaid expansion, total uncompensated care would decline by approximately $183 billion from 2013-2022 compared to the ACA if no states expanded Medicaid. States and localities finance about 30% of uncompensated care costs for the uninsured,


For example, we estimate that hospitals could receive $314 billion additional dollars between 2013 and 2022, or 18% more than they would receive under ACA with no states expanding Medicaid.


BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

How would we pay for Medicaid expansion? We could go a little easier on the hundreds of millions in tax credits and subsidies doled-out to the "job creators" each year. But, I suppose that might cost us our No. 1 ranking as the "best place" to come on down and get your corporate welfare by those in the business of prospecting for such.

td1234
td1234

According to the Kaiser study the expansion of the ACA with Medicaid will cost the American taxpayer a TRILLION dollars per year. 


"If all states adopted the Medicaid expansion, total spending would rise by another $808.5 billion, or 12.3 

percent more than under the ACA without the expansion"


http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/8384.pdf

honested
honested

@JohnBoy10  

Please, please, use the proper appelation.

It is the 'Radical Wrong Wing'.

Today in America there are to clearly defined positions.........Left and wrong!

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@Numbers_R_Us  ahh, your so smart, we're not worthy

td1234
td1234

@NWGAL  The gun bill was also passed by Jason Carter and most of the Democrat leadership in the legislature.

PatrickThompson
PatrickThompson

@td1234 let every taxpayer keep paying for the carnage and mayhem that happens when this many people are uninsured and paying nothing into the system...

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234 , when you tell us exactly where the Kaiser study you linked to earlier says Georgia's share of Medicaid expansion will be $100 million a year you'll get your answers!

honested
honested

@td1234  

RAISE TAXES TO CIVILIZED LEVELS!

You know, like they do in CIVILIZED States.

DannyX
DannyX

@Jke, if you had read the link to the poll that the article referenced you would have noticed that the poll was taken before the Kalberman trial and verdict that she eventually won and was awarded $700,000.  Read some of the things that came out during the court case.  Betcha its not within the margin of error anymore.  My bet is Deal is no longer the most trusted Republican.  Just sayin'.

honested
honested

@CherokeeCounty  

People expressing opinions that disagree with wrong-wing orthodoxy?

Find them and neutralize them!!

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Andy123   I guess--correction, I'm sure--you think they are supposed to ignore the injustices perpetrated by cons that have led to the conditions you describe. Preventing them from voting, barring increases in the minimum wage, stiffer prison sentences for Black folks compared to Whites, opposition to Affirmative Action, establishing new segregated schools--oops, I mean charter schools--outright hatred and total disrespect for the first Africa-American President based solely on his race, defense of police brutality toward Blacks, defending the 'right' of someone to not serve certain customers, don't have anything to do with Black folks voting Dem, is that your story?

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Baumer_1  They could hold it on clive bundy's ranch, with his militia buddies providing security. That way when they spout their bulls**t, it will fit right in with the other bulls**t his cows drop everyday. They will feel right at home with their repuppy trademarks, guns and bulls**t.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Somalia of course, but that's pretty easy.

Lots of cons all of a sudden have a mancrush on Vladimir Putin - they like those pics of him shirtless on a horse - maybe Russia would be more to their liking...

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@JamVet Maybe the ad will resonate with the 90% chickenhawk contingent of the repuppy party, but why would he want to remind people of the disastrous consequences of repuppy government with their constant drum beat for foreign wars? 

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@BuckheadBoy  

Why outsource low-wage, low-skill jobs to comparatively advanced economies like China or Singapore when we can just send them to GA?

Heck, with the high business failure rate in GA (which is much higher than all of those small-business hating Blue states) you don't really have to worry about local competition.

 

honested
honested

@td1234  

tiny dog, 

You should probably leave math to people who comprehend it.

It prevents you from looking like a fool.

By the way, how do you feel about sending $9,000,000.00 per day to OTHER stated for the medicaid money Georgia IS NOT making use of today?

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234,   Where does your $100 million a year cost to Georgia come from?

DannyX
DannyX

@blah blah blah, hurry up, you still have time to edit your post.


If you're trying to look smart that is.

NWGAL
NWGAL

Stupidity is not limited to a single party. Political ambition feeds stupidity.

td1234
td1234

@honested Since that is an unrealistic expectation come November when more than 70% of the citizens in this state will vote yes on a Constitutional Amendment to cap the states income taxes do you have any other ideas?

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@AuntieChrist  outright hatred and total disrespect for the first Africa-American President based solely on his race,  That's a lie but just keeping telling yourself that!!  

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@honested @td1234 

Lets add in the cost to the GA healthcare infrastructure for uninsured patients who don't/can't pay their medical bills.  And the cost to the court system for all of those personal bankruptcies from unpaid medical bills (which account for 70% of all personal bankruptcies). Costs to employers for having employees that miss extended periods of work because they can not get medical treatment The costs of unemployment for those who are fired for getting sick and the lost revenues to companies who lose customers who are out of work.

There are more lurking costs out there that are not incurred by the government...but for whatever reason td and her brethren are obsessed with the government. That is why whenever she brings up the People I can't take her seriously.  It is as if she doesn't know who the People are (they are a collective, btw).

td1234
td1234

@DannyX @td1234  You have to do a little calculating. Deal and Representative Jan Jones actually said it will cost $400 million per year but those figures are not accounting for the first 3 years when the Feds put in 100% of the money. 

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@DannyX-  what???  oh, my bad.  See, he's the smart one

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234 You seem to be totally unaware of the reason we elect representatives and a chief executive. Smart people who want to make government work, know how to raise and budget money.  Then there are people who aren't too smart, who want to make government as inefficient and unresponsive as possible. They have no idea how to budget, and furthermore have no desire to formulate one, because that requires them to actually have a solutions instead of just slogans.

I noted once before:   It's odd that I never see you or the other cons ask the question "How would these sweetheart deals be paid for?"  referring to the sweetheart tax breaks that are afforded $gazillion mega-corporations.

TBS
TBS

@td1234 @honested 

There wont even be a 70% registered voter turnout so how will 70% of the citizens be voting yes?  

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@AuntieChrist - boy you just don't stop!!!  Some people get up in the morning and go to work so to pay taxes for all the free loading moochers.  Try it sometime it's good for the soul.


I bet your husband uses ear plugs.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@blah blah blah  Up early getting your talking points from pox n fiends?  I'll bet you miss Dear Abby, where you could pour out your heart over those sox you got from your auntie, instead of a warm wet gun. 

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@blah blah blah People laugh at you when you go all unhinged like that. You do know that, right?   Sorry bout your auntie, and you go ahead and cry bout them sox. If you have anymore childhoods traumas you want to talk about, you just go right ahead, we're here for you. You come here often and vent a lot of spleen, is it because of them sox you got, instead of getting a nice new bicycle? Is that why you're so angry?

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@AuntieChrist  - a little vain are we???   Too smart for the rest of us???  Love being in the spot-light???  

Nope I'm too busy working.  Try it sometime, it's good for the soul.  

However, you seem to regurgitate those progressive talking points like french fries:      "Preventing voting" "minimum wage"  "stiffer prison sentences for Black folks" "opposition to Affirmative Action" "segregated schools--oops, I mean charter schools"  "hatred and total disrespect for the first Africa-American President based solely on his race" "defense of police brutality toward Blacks" "defending the 'right' of someone to not serve certain customers"  

Did you hear all those talking points from Mr.ED????  

You must weigh 600 pounds after eating all that trans-fat.  Actually you remind me of my aunt who only bought socks for her nieces and nephews.  You know functional gifts: sorry but she was a conservative.  

Sorry to say but your just ANOTHER AJC liberal troll.  Nothing special so get over yourself.  

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@blah blah blah Well, we can wait for you to digest this morning's fox and fiends, or last night's orally and hannity, to get your talking points. Or you could just think for yourself, but that would require a scintilla of intelligence, and we all know you and andy weren't blessed with that.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@blah blah blah Since that is the only point I made that you are disputing, I can only surmise that you concede as true the other points. 

I guess all the racist emails that we've seen in the news the last 6-7 years, depicting the Obama's as apes, watermelons on the White House lawn, etc were all sent by Democrats. Yeah, right.

Your willful ignorance is adorable, if you're 6 years old. If you're over 6 though, it shows you are a willful liar.

honested
honested

@DannyX @Baumer_1 

All valuable services to a Civilized populace and reasons the ACA was first envisioned!

DannyX
DannyX

@Baumer_11, indeed.


I know my property tax bill would go down because DeKalb and Fulton would be able to greatly reduce the amount given to Grady each year.  Sales and payroll taxes receipts would go up.  Rural hospitals could stay open. 

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234, all you have to do is produce the numbers, which you can't do!


Please cut and paste this mythical part of the report..." the fed amount for expanding Medicaid in Georgia would be $1 billion per year and say then 10% of that number would be $100 million."


You can't because its not there!  You provided a link but can't back up your made up numbers!  Provide the page number and copy and paste the the part that supports your math. Its that simple!  Stop stalling.  

td1234
td1234

@DannyX I gave you the actual report with the numbers on it and I do not have a clue. 


Dang son, you can not read a simple stat sheet that shows the fed amount for expanding Medicaid in Georgia would be $1 billion per year and say then 10% of that number would be $100 million. LOL

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234


td, you haven't a clue what you're talking about do you?


Not a fricken clue.

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@td1234 @DannyX  FY2014 medicaid budget spends $1,125 billion on low income medicaid.  That's without expansion.  


So, td1234 intelligence strikes again.   


Another $1,600 billion will be spent on the old, blind and disabled.  

td1234
td1234

@DannyX I thought you were smart enough to actually read, analysis data my friend? 


I will tell you what show me the numbers that debunks my claim and I will then show you where your analytical skills are lacking and show you the numbers.   

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234, would you please cut and paste then post here the part that explains all of that.

td1234
td1234

@DannyX @td1234  Per the report the Feds will be spending a little more than a billion dollars per year in Georgia on the expansion of Medicaid. If Geogias cost share is 10% then that would mean $100 million per year. 

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234, you didn't come close to backing up your statement because your math just doesn't add up! 

td1234
td1234

@DannyX  The Georgia budget and policy institute (very progressive group) claims it will only cost the state $33 million per year after you include the economic impact of the Federal money. 

DannyX
DannyX

@td1234, so you can't back your statement up.  Jan Jones is pulling numbers out of her butt. 

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