Posted: 1:05 pm Monday, April 21st, 2014

Jason Carter: Gun bill a solution for ‘geographically polarized’ communities 

By Jim Galloway

State Sen. Jason Carter, the Democratic candidate for governor, was on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown” this morning to talk about his race against Republican incumbent Nathan Deal.

Amidst the routine questions was one that has puzzled many of Carter’s Democratic supporters, even in Georgia. Why did you vote for H.B. 60, the expansive gun bill that Deal will sign on Wednesday? Chuck Todd asked.

What follows is what we think is Carter’s most expansive explanation on the topic so far:

Carter: “I think the Second Amendment is important to many people in Georgia. And I know a lot of national Democrats and others have been upset or angry about this, and I’ve heard from a lot of them. But again, we worked across the aisle to try to make the bill better than it was when it first started. I think we succeeded in that.

“But ultimately, you’re talking about people who have a license to carry in a state where the Second Amendment is incredibly important.”

Todd: “Do you think teachers should be armed in schools? Do you think that would help with dealing with a potential mass school shooter?”

Carter: “Look, I think what we’ve done is, we’ve allowed communities to make those decisions for themselves. There’s not an issue that I know of that’s more geographically polarizing than guns. And there are some communities in my state that will feel safer if their school districts are allowed to make those decisions. And there’s other communities where they won’t. And those communities will get to decide for themselves.”

61 comments
MyrtleDavis
MyrtleDavis

Jason Carter may think that he is reaching across the aisle, but in my opinion, he is losing his base with that one vote. Maybe at some point, we will be able to elect a Democrat from Georgia that thinks the way that many of us do.

Proberts
Proberts

We'll have to find another candidate!  I don't want a wimp like Jason Carter who is just acting like another politician, talking out of both sides of his mouth.

bluepeach
bluepeach

I am appalled to find this is Jason Carter's op. Dammit! Aside from pro death penalty take, I was so excited to have rationale return to gov off :(( Boo! Jason Carter! Are you trying to distance yourself from your gfather at any cost? Where is Roy Barnes I need a Georgian with integrity help!!!

Infoforyou
Infoforyou

lvg:  If the cop knows the person is a felon, then he has already committed another crime by having the gun, license or not.

LarryFeltonJ
LarryFeltonJ

Carter's answer is complete and utter gibberish, and the word disappointment doesn't adequately describe my reaction.  I was excited when he announced, was prepared to contribute and do some campaigning among my neighbors for him.  Now it's a coin flip as to whether I'll cast a vote in the race for governor.

lvg
lvg

HB 60:

""" A person carrying a weapon shall not be subject to detention for the sole purpose of

investigating whether such person has a weapons carry license."""""""""""""


So the cop who sees a known ex-felon with a gun is violating the law if he detains him to see if he has a license.

lvg
lvg

Face it  the NRA owns this state and bozos in legislature will pass just about anything NRA dreams up.Carter just part of the circus under the gold dome. No one talking about provision in bill that limits police right to inquire as to permit of someone carrying in public even if they are paroled killer who is mentally unstable or part that allows  silencers for hunters even when hunting in areas where people are present. Murderers will love that one- allows them to operate in silence and claim they were hunting.

stevedollar2013
stevedollar2013

Honestly who cares what little jimmy says. He's a far left loon that has no place here in our bright red state. 


You people..

vesaversa
vesaversa

I understand why Carter voted for the gun bill . And it dosen'tr change my vote for him on election day . Carter and Nunn have my vote.

notagain
notagain

I think Deals going to sign the bill in Ellijay,since Ralston had lots of influence on the design.TD will probably be there,hope he doesn't fall in river....

notagain
notagain

Also the AJC is read by choice,no one holds a Gun to your head,sayin read......

BuzzG
BuzzG

No one cares what Jason Carter has to say about anything.  The fact that the AJC thinks that Jason Carter matters should tell you why the AJC is a dying paper.

JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

Heck, just the other day I say a man standing on an overpass sporting a loaded AK47, walking back and forth....guess what?...the cops could do nothing about it! Totally legal. Now add Jason Carter into the mix of radical nut jobs, and their pathetic followers, who are singlehandedly ruining our once great country! Guns in bars, churches...and AK47's on overpasses...Jason Carter, Nathan Deal, and all his cronies should be mighty proud.

JohnBoy10
JohnBoy10

Total sell out. Sucking up to the Radical Right nut wings in Georgia. Yup - only way to win an election here is to out crazy your opponent. Too bad, really.

Derwin0
Derwin0

Why did he vote for it?  Because he wants to get elected Statewide in Georgia.  Unless you are in a district solely within the perimeter, you have no change of getting elected in this State by advocating gun control.  Even Roy Barnes was a life time member of the NRA.

mrob
mrob

Jason Carter is not your typical "peanut brain Southern white boy". In fact he is very smart and understand the peril and the repeated usage of southern racist code words as it applies to southern racist politics.


Jason Carter is a new breed Georgian that understand very well that Georgia still have a high population of poor ignorant southern people who will vote for a conservative, dangerous republicans regardless of how poor they are. Jason believe that Georgia is rapidly growing into an ever changing multicultural state and want those people (rural Georgians) trust to believe in a new Georgia that will offer Georgian a better future.

I'm please with the idea to purchase a car license plate that honor MLK King, Malcolm X, and etc...

I believe that Jason is no "sell-out" Jason is not trying to step on no muddy red clay shoes, unless they belong to the "dangerous wrong Deal". Deal wants to divide Georgia by offering confederates license plates without offering other races the opportunities to have their own honorable license plate too.


I like this ideal Jason to allow Georgians to purchase civil rights license plates, if it would allow transparency of safe record keeping to study, monitor, criticize, and combat illegal traffic stops and illegal searches. 


btn
btn

Carter is going to get less Democrat votes than Nunn, it will be because that gun vote, and it will cost him the Governors race.

Enoch19
Enoch19

Carter also said that if he was governor that he would not do anything to prevent the Confederate battle flag from being put on Georgia license plates.  


The question is: Are these really Carter's positions or is he pandering. 


I bet Auntie and the progs all hope he is pandering.  Pretty pathetic if you ask me.  You hope your candidate for governor is pandering.  

Astropig
Astropig

Kind of nice to see a DemoCrazy "reaching across the aisle", isn't it?

Your guy sold you out, libs. he'd rather take a looooooonnnnnnggggg shot stab at winning than stand up for his (and your) "principles'. Great candidate you've got there.

td1234
td1234

Carter fully supports his vote on the Gun bill and says it is good legislation and he fully supports his vote on the Constitutional Amendment to cap the states income tax so that there will be no expansion of Medicaid in this state. 


How excited are you progressives about campaigning for Jason Carter the would be conservative democrat for governor?  

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

"Amidst the routine questions was one that has puzzled many of Carter’s Democratic supporters" - Mostly meaning AJC reporters and editors.  Of course, they will continue to push Carter as their favorite, but this is vexing to them.

It was fun to watch how AJC reporter/ blogger Bluestein blogged about how the legislation was not going to be signed by Governor Deal shortly after it passed, only to later say it was a slam dunk.

Spinoza
Spinoza

@bluepeach I agree and I stopped working as a volunteer in his campaign after this egregious vote.  One must make a principled stand somewhere along the line. 

But Barnes wouldn't even support the Affordable Health Care Act during his last campaign and he has lost twice. 

 I hate to say this as a native Georgian but this is one sorry state for politics unless you are a knuckle dragging reactionary.

Spinoza
Spinoza

@vesaversa I will vote for both (though Dr. Rad in the primaries) but I this is still one sorry vote and it helps make the state look like a laughing stock composed of rednecks.

JoseGonzales
JoseGonzales

@vesaversa It should.  The GOP war on marijuana is a big government nanny state war on individual liberty and pursuit of happiness.  If Jason comes out in favor of legalized marijuana, he will represent the best of both parties.

stevedollar2013
stevedollar2013

@BuzzG  I totally agree. they'll be peddling the numb carter ticket from now till November. Its shameful really. But I can see their frustration knowing that Georgia is a bright red state and they're a liberal bastion right in the middle... They can stay that way as far as I'm concerned. Vote straight Republican ticket!


Those people...

JoseGonzales
JoseGonzales

@JohnBoy10 It wasn't an AK47, they are automatic and illegal.  It was probably a WASR-10 that was wimperized so that the citizens cannot stand up to the government.

Charles50
Charles50

@btn  Why do people think that Democrats want to take their guns and that the only Democrats with guns are crooks?  


I seriously doubt that this issue is a deal breaker for most Democrats.  No one totally agrees with everything a person stands for.  

CharlesHendrix
CharlesHendrix

@Enoch19  Pandering is what ALL republicans do with the NRA and GeorgiaCarry  to keep the base engaged and get campaign funding. Nothing screams louder to the brain dead than "they are going to come and get your guns" even though it is simply a fabrication to boost gun sales. It seems there are a lot of people with too few functional brain cells to be able to grasp they are being played by the gun industry like an old worn out fiddle. 

CharlesHendrix
CharlesHendrix

@Enoch19  pandering is what ALL republicans do with the NRA and GeorgiaCarry  to keep the base engaged and get campaign funding. Nothing screams louder to the brain dead than "they are going to come and get your guns" even though it is simply a fabrication to boost gun sales. It seems there are a lot of people with too few functional brain cells to be able to grasp they are being played by the gun industry like an old worn out fiddle. 

honested
honested

@Enoch19  

Whatever dog whistles he has to play for you guys.

It isn't like you are deeply thoughtful about your neaderthal attachments.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Enoch19

During an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown,” state Sen. Jason Carter, a Democrat, said people have the right to sport the Sons of Confederate Veterans-backed license plate, which features an image of the Confederate flag.

He also said he would rather have people focus their attention on the role that Georgia and its leaders played in the civil rights movement.“I would like to see us focus on that great legacy we have of Dr. King and Joseph Lowery and Andy Young,”

http://www.alipac.us/f9/jimmy-carter%92s-grandson-people-have-right-sport-confederate-battle-flag-license-301496/

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I guess to a teatard that sounds like pandering, but to someone with reading comprehension skills above a 3rd grade level, it sounds like exactly what it is. If unreconstructed confederate teatards want to display their bigotry, Jason won't stand in their way.


As for real pandering, no better example can be found in our dear gubner's sudden desire to remove tom watson's statue, and the erect one of MLK, just coincidentally, I guess, in an election year.

Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

CharlesHendrix
CharlesHendrix

@Astropig  Scares you folks to death that a Democrat might use the same "evade" the issue tactic as Republicans do doesn't it?

honested
honested

@Astropig  

So what?

He's correct on every other issue and he follows his family's 'tolerance' of the ignorant redneck faction.

Heck, Governor Carter knows that ignorant rednecks get to vote too!

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Astropig It is so very laughable to read the comments of a teatard when they see Democrats with varying opinions. In their world, variance from the party line is considered outright heresy, and earns people like chambliss, isakson, and anyone else to the left of Ivan the Terrible, the moniker of RINO.  Their narrow little minds just can't comprehend nor tolerate any view not expressed by a rupert murdoch puppet. They are holdovers of Danton and Robespierre of the 18th century, with views that have not evolved in the least from that dark period, i.e. if they disagree with my point of view, "off with their heads."  Their big tent is the size of a bed sheet, which also serves as their night rider wardrobe.

Democrats will tolerate differing view points, unlike the teatard purists, who will eventually die out from eating their own.

CharlesHendrix
CharlesHendrix

@td1234  Very excited when you consider the alternative.  You people keep knocking Carter and ignoring the problems with Deal and his re-election bid. Most people that have the capability of reasoning, know Deal is not exactly doing this state a hell of a lot of good. Most assuredly so when it comes to those that need help the most, the poor.  It fails to register in the brains of republicans that almost 20% of the states population lives below the poverty line and you keep trying to make their lives more miserable than they already are and you think they will vote Republican?  You die hard Republicans, are in for a shock come November.  Sort of like when you all were so sure Romney was going to be President........Carter and Nunn. the dynamic duo that have Republicans crapping their britches.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234   How excited are you about donning your cheer leader bloomers and pom poms everyday for candidate 4%? 

Palatin
Palatin

@The_Centrist Having choice in  representative democracy is always better than having no choice. You really just come across as a hater and malcontent and very jelly and that obviates any validity to your pontifications on the AJC or politics in Georgia.

Spinoza
Spinoza

@JoseGonzales Why don't you go to Texas and succeed if you hate the U.S. government so much.  You people have no brains at all.

Charles50
Charles50

@AuntieChrist  Or throwing out the idea that he was going to give teachers and state workers a raise.  When after reading the fine print that's not what he's doing at all.  

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@Palatin  Wow, Palatin, count yourself lucky, that you got off so easily with just a tongue-lashing from dah centrist.  Here is what he usually does to miscreant libruls like yourself:  "so I'll simply add you to my list of AJC partisans who I will ignore and become indifferent towards."

I'm not sure how you would stand up to dah centrist's indifference and being ignored, but to most of us it is just devastating!  Personally, it has caused me to have PTSD and a loss of self-confidence. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@Palatin - Agree with your fist sentence.  But you are obviously a Democrat who does not have a problem with the gross AJC bias.  How I come across to you is of no consequence to me.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Think you are aiming high, mostly because you are counting on too many of those teachers and state employees being Republicans or crossing over.  But, that is still paltry and not going to force a runoff.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist @td1234  For the numbers of 4% to be true that would mean that only 26,000 of the 650,000 teachers, state employees and retirees angry with Deal to vote in the May 20th primary for Barge (and that is only counting just those votes and Barge would get no other votes from anyone else). 


I have already stated that I can count Barge receiving between 100 and 150,000 votes and if the turnout is the same range between 550,000 and 650,000 voters then that puts him at 20 to 25% of the vote. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - I won't take that bet.  There will be some crossover voting - I think he will get into double digits along with Pennington - but would bet there will be no runoff.

td1234
td1234

@AuntieChrist @td1234  I have already asked one person on these blogs to place a wager on the final numbers so I will ask you the same. $100, $1000 how much are you will to bet that the final outcome is less than 5%? 

Palatin
Palatin

@The_Centrist @Palatin I guess its safe to say you didn't get the SouthPark satire. As a long time and current supporter of Gov. Deal and other local Republicans legislators the "obviousness" of me being a Democrat may be questionable, although I fully embrace the moniker of democrat. If you find the bias so gross here, don't read it and go to excellent conservative blogs like the GeorgiaPundit. I do think Carter is running more for the next election than this one.