Posted: 9:30 am Friday, March 28th, 2014

Jason Carter as an ‘NRA Democrat’ 

By Jim Galloway, Greg Bluestein and Daniel Malloy

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State Sens. Renee Unterman, R-Buford, and Jason Carter, D-Atlanta, confer during the last day of the session. Brant Sanderlin, bsanderlin@ajc.com

Last week, when the state Senate had its final vote on H.B. 60, dubbed the “guns everywhere” bill by critics, Republican Fran Millar and Democrat Jason Carter essentially swapped votes.

Millar voted against the measure, which expanded the right to carry concealed weaponry in Georgia – later observing that the Legislature seemed to prefer firearms to children. Carter, the Democratic candidate for governor, voted yes.

Your daily jolt on politics from the AJC's Political insider blogThe bill is now before Gov. Nathan Deal. We’ll let Jeanne Bonner with Georgia Public Broadcasting pick up the thread:

Deal has said pointedly that the legislation is not “part of his agenda” but he’s expected to sign it. Carter, whose family has South Georgia roots, brushed off questions about the bill by saying he’s an “NRA Democrat.”

GPB reached out to several long-term Democrats who said they’re not familiar with that phrase. One political expert mused that Carter may be taking his cue from an ad Democratic Congressman John Barrow ran a few years back showing him handling guns and crowing about his NRA endorsement.

“That ad was very successful,” said Charles Bullock, a professor at the University of Georgia. “It neutralized some of the Republicans’ claims that Democrats were against guns or opposed the NRA.”

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It appears we’ve got a genuine, copper-bottomed trend. From Walter Jones and Morris News Service:

Political newcomer David Perdue is topping a poll of likely voters in the Republican Senate primary.

When surveyed Sunday and Monday, 17 percent said they were supporting Perdue, the former chief executive of Reebok and Dollar General and the cousin of Georgia’s last governor in a poll released Thursday by InsiderAdvantage that was conducted for Morris News and FOX5 in Atlanta.

Savannah Congressman Jack Kingston is in second with 15 percent, although effectively tied with Perdue by coming within the poll’s 3.26 percent margin of error. Next are Athens Congressman Paul Broun, 10 percent; Marietta Congressman Phil Gingrey, 8 percent; former Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel, 5 percent; and “other” with 1 percent. The poll did not ask about candidates Derrick Grayson or Art Gardner….

This latest poll is in line with two recently released surveys. All have the same order for the candidates, although the percentages differ.

The GOP candidates gather Saturday night for a debate in Savannah. Perdue should expect, for the first time in these tussles, some incoming fire.

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John Boehner did not annex the Senate cloakroom, but Paul Broun on Thursday likened the House Speaker to Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Yes, you read that right.

Boehner angered conservatives by pushing through a one-year “doc fix” on a voice vote, avoiding a difficult roll call that might not get the required two-thirds support.

Bipartisan efforts to reform the way physicians are paid by Medicare failed, so Congress has to act swiftly to put off scheduled 24 percent cuts to physician payments. On Thursday, the House did so by bringing it up for a voice vote – typically reserved for uncontroversial matters. None of the handful of House members on the floor at the time objected, but the move surprised many members who were getting ready for a vote.

The Daily Caller reports grumbling from conservatives about the tactic, including this from Broun:

“I consider it a step backwards for democracy,” he said in a statement to TheDC. “This Putin-esque behavior is an example of why I voted against Boehner as Speaker of the House.”

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U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston is taking pains to show that his “no free lunch” approach to free lunches in school is in line with mainstream Republican thinking in Georgia — by applauding legislation passed by the General Assembly this session that would require recipients of food stamps and welfare to undergo drug tests, and pay for them.

In a letter to state Senate and House leaders, the U.S. Senate candidate plugged similar legislation he sponsored in Congress.

“I support Georgia’s efforts to ensure beneficiaries are ready to enter the work force and will continue to work to advance legislation at the federal level that supports that goal,” he said.

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Valarie Wilson, the executive director for the Atlanta Beltline Partnership and now a Democratic candidate for state school superintendent, has posted this YouTube video detailing how she came to be involved in education. She blames her mother-in-law:

Said Wilson:

“I’d heard all of these rumors about middle school – our middle school in particular. And I was really concerned about my son, because I did not want to lose my young black male. My mother-in-law, Elizabeth Wilson, integrated the city schools of Decatur. When I announced over the dinner table that we were going to take our little boy, her precious grandson, to private school, she almost flipped out….

Wilson was in Athens last night, speaking to a group of Democrats. From the Banner-Herald:

Wilson called school budgets that don’t contain enough money for a full 180-day school year “almost criminal.”
Other threats to public education are school vouchers and the move toward charter schools run by private, for-profit corporations, she said.

“Maybe it won’t be segregation on a race basis, but it will be segregation on an economic basis,” she said.

A human resources professional, Wilson knows the issues. She was the chairwoman of the Decatur City Board of Education for seven years and served for a year as the president of the Georgia School Boards Association.

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Ted Turner is not a fan of the Atlanta Braves move to up I-75.

Maria Saporta caught up to the former Braves owner at an event at Cobb Galleria. He told her that he never would have moved the team to the burbs, not that they asked him his opinion. Said Turner:

“The one in Cobb is not going to be name after me. That’s probably why they want to do this. They can make a lot of money selling the naming rights.”

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An Alabama U.S. House candidate is causing a stir by shooting holes in Obamacare – literally – with an escalating series of guns:

Peach Pundit wonders whether any Georgia politicians will follow suit, but that would be imitating an imitation. West Virginia’s Joe Manchin invented the “bill-shooting” genre with cap and trade.

 

 

89 comments
Lynn43
Lynn43

Heavens to Betsy.  Doesn't anyone on this blog work?  All you all can do is fuss.  It is after 4:00, and I'm just home.  I hate guns and will not ever have one, but I realize there are people who deserve a gun and people who don't.  There are also places where they can be and places where they should not be. Just like there are people who should drive a car and people who shouldn't.  And places where cars can be and places where they should not be. Because of this crazy legislation, I'm almost afraid to go to the grocery store, but fussing about it here is not going to change anything.  Now let's get to something we can change for the better.  Valarie Wilson for State School Superintendent.  She is great. 

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

It's time for the Gov to grow a pair and veto the gun bill.


Fran Millar last week said he was done with the repub party. The Dems will take you!


"...and “other” with 1 percent."

Was that a rock?

Charles50
Charles50

I think the gun bill in GA is horrible.  Sorry to hear that Jason supported it.  However, I also get irritated at people who think Dems don't own guns unless they are criminals.  As a sidebar, most the people you Repubs think are criminals generally don't vote for either party.  


Now gun ownership and NRA membership are two completely different animals.  If you happen to be a Repub it's a two-fer.  

Charles50
Charles50

Oh great.  Another Republican worried about Obamacare but not littering, i.e., the environment.  I wonder how much money he paid for that little juvenile display?

petel
petel

This gun bill is the stupidest and one of the most dangerous bill the radical GA legislature has ever passed.  That and not allowing abortion in the case of rape.  How cruel is that to women? 

td1234
td1234

Carter lead the effort and voted to turn the Hope scholarship from a merit based one where the best and brightest students are rewarded for hard work to one that is just another entitlement program. 


He can attempt to paint himself as a moderate but that effort alone shows he is just like his grandfather.  

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Lynn43  

Doesn't anyone on this blog work?

Of course I do. Why don't you post your name, address, email address and phone numbers here so I can contact you for your approval of my daily schedule?

Just requestin'.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@RoadScholar The only problem is Jan Jones walked out of the office with them when she took his right to expand Medicaid.  (Haven't you heard that little squeaky voice he is left with?)

td1234
td1234

@RoadScholar  Yes I can just see Deal vetoing a gun bill after Carter voted for the bill. I am pretty sure there is a 0% chance of that happening. 

td1234
td1234

@petel  The gun bill still gives Georgian's less 2nd Amendment freedoms than in Vermont one of the most progressive states in the country. 

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234 Wrong as usual. Carter's proposed amendment would have returned the Hope program to it's original intent, a "Needs-based" system, for students of lower income families. The original cap on Hope was $60,000 household income, Cater proposed a $100,000 HH income cap for recipients.

Did you call it an "entitlement" when it was originally enacted? Or is it just now an "entitlement" because Jason Carter proposed returning to its original intent?

honested
honested

@td1234 @RoadScholar 

When it comes to shady doing anything that is to the benefit of the Majority of Georgians, you would finally be correct about something......0%.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 @petel - Not much change, so the pretend and hyperbolic reaction by liberals is made up.  Guns are now allowed in bars and churches that don't oppose them, and on campuses (think in cars) except dorms and at sporting events.  

td1234
td1234

@AuntieChrist @td1234  Yes I did and worked hard to have the law changed so that it was based on purely merit. A child that does the right thing and works their butts off to earn the grades and make high scores on the SAT/ACT should not be punished because his/her parents income levels but rather should be rewarded on what they have done. 

PFD664
PFD664

You don't need a gun to stand your ground, a baseball bat, pipe, pool cue and many other items can inflict damage to fend off an attack. For us law abiding background checked folks we can have a gun to protect ourselves if we so choose.

PFD664
PFD664

They can use a bat, club, pool stick, and anything not prohibited for a felon to have. You don't need a gun to kill someone..

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234  

And who is attacking you? 

You claimed you were blogging during church a few Sundays ago.  I merely reminded you.

If you were not at church that is your lie.  You are a known liar on these blogs so no need to be offended now.  

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

Afraid of what word?  

You fraudulent version.

And believe me I am not your friend.

You will be known by your works and you keep coming up empty.

Just some loon trying to convince himself.

It's alright man.  I do like the entertainment you provide.

There is nothing about you or what you believe that makes me afraid or scared.  Saying does give you false comfort but I'm ok with that.

lololololololol

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows Attack mode. You my friend are so afraid of hearing the word of the Lord that you attack the messenger over and over again. Now if one was to speculate then one would say that you are in denial of Christ. 


Like I said it is your choice as to if you will be in Heaven or Hell one day.  

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

You are a fraud and a joke.

Your attempts to fool yourself are amusing.

But no one on these blogs and I'd venture most you come in contact away from the blogs is fooled by your tripe and foolishness. 

You are a ALL talk, little to no walk.  

Anyone can read your comments and deduct that within 5 minutes.

But you keep blogging during church, that is if you were there, if it keeps your fire insurance plan intact.  

td1234
td1234

@BK37  I do not assume anything. I am just doing as required to do as a Christian and that is to go out and spread the word teaching in the name of the Father, The son and the Holy ghost. 


If one wants to believe or not is totally up to them. 

BK37
BK37

Why do you assume that Nobody_Knows shares the same beliefs that you do?  

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

You are empty handed son.

All mouth and no action.

The one and only reason you have to tell people all the time that you are a Christian because your actions never show it.  You are only attempting to convince yourself.

You fool no one except you.

You are a fraud son

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows It is not up to me to determine if you are saved or not but your daily diatribe sure puts questions out there. 


Like I said if you chose to deny Christ then you will receive your just reward one day. 


It will be quite clear one day when you stand at the gates to heaven and your name will either be written in the Lambs book of life in the blood of Jesus and you will be told to enter brother or if it is not then you we be sent to he because Christ will tell you that he does not know you. 


No gray area allowed

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows 

You don't know what I believe or not.  You are just spouting more of the typical stupidity you spout on a regular basis.

There is nothing Christ like about you.

You are a fraud who believes just for the free fire insurance plan


Jesus said you will be known by your works.  Son, you are empty handed on that topic.

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows If you choose to not believe and go to hell one day then you have the freewill to do it. So just keep on laughing and missing what true love is all about. 

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows You do understand that God gives us all free will? If someone wants to end their live then it is not any ones place to stop them unless they are told to specifically by God. 

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@td1234 @Ralph-43There are no background checks if the sale is person to person...so just walk outside of the gunshow and sell for cash! Oh and this came from a friend who is a licensed gun advocate, gunsmith and registered Federally to do security at gun shows!!!! He supports all get background checks. Hell, you even get one if you get a drivers' license.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@Mitchellbrooks @Ralph-43@BK37 As I recall the Rules Chairman was playing AC/DC so loud no body could hear anything said.  (Would somebody teach that pot belly how to dance?)  Public comment was not allowed.  This has become a frightened dictatorship and now with political prisoners, censorship of speech, and pollution of the environment regardless of federal law.  Good thing we have our guns and hand grenades.  Crimea recall coming fast.

Mitchellbrooks
Mitchellbrooks

@Ralph-43 @BK37 

This is exactly the sort of hysterical lunacy that cause the GA legislature to give little credence to those who protested in committee hearings for this bill.  Pathetic 

td1234
td1234

@Ralph-43 Pure gibberish. There are back ground checks at gun shows and if someone wants to commit suicide then they are going to do it with a gun or not. At least a gun is a clean and quick way and the state does not have to take care of the person that screws it up.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@BK37 Anybody can buy a gun in Georgia.  Attend a gun show.  Check out the internet.  No background checks there.  But - most convenient - just break into some gun nut's home and steal it - or, even more fun - take it away from him when he staggers out of the bar or fumbles it to the ground when he is trying to put his bible in the car after church.  "Guns everywhere" - only the bad guys always have them and the so-called 'good guys' are getting themselves murdered twice as often as the peaceful and then go ahead a commit suicide three times as often.  What a disgraceful mess. 

td1234
td1234

@BK37  Stand you ground is not just a law intended for the use of a gun. Do paroled or probationer felon would go directly back to jail if they used a gun in defense but they should have a proper defense if they had to take another persons life no matter what they had to use.  

BK37
BK37

I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell a convicted felon can use Stand Your Ground when they shouldn't even have a gun in the first place.

honested
honested

@td1234 @Nobody_Knows@BK37 

tiny dog, 

No, unfortunately I don't expect xtians to mind their own business.

They have too much invested in attempting to force their will on others.

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@td1234 @BK37 

You said when bloggers start name calling you don't respond.  You have more than done you share of name calling on these blogs so you are lying.

Do you think Jesus smiles when you willfully lie as much as you do?

The Bible doesn't speak of lying in Jesus name. 

Quit lying son.  

Time for you to grow up mentally and stop going through life as a liar and hypocrite.

 

td1234
td1234

@Nobody_Knows @BK37  It also appears that your vision of a Christian is that they are suppose to lay down and take it when they are attacked and not be a Christian Soldier. 


Wow is all I can say. The choice is yours and yours alone to either believe of not believe. There will be consequences to the choice you make one day and I will have noting whatsoever to do with the consequences. 

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@BK37  

he is a huge name caller over at Bookman's.

I guess his attempt to project onto others what he is guilty of is his form of Christianity shining through


lolololololololol

BK37
BK37

So you're going to skip over the known partisans and name callers huh?  Does that include both sides?  

Getting_Older
Getting_Older

@The_Centrist @td1234  - Good point about the Hope Scholarship keeping the high achievers at home.  Look at UGA entrance requirements/test scores since the Hope.  Good students were heading out of state. With Hope, they are now staying home.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist @td1234  When they start name calling then or being stupid then I do not respond. I will respond to any philosophical point they make just to show both sides of the debate.  

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - But I am STILL going to skip over and not read the known partisans and name callers, hence not debate them.  Lurkers will just have to figure out on their own how extraneous these posters are.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist @td1234  5 to 10% and then maybe another 20% left leaning that could have their minds changed on certain issues. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Although I hadn't thought of that, do you really think there are many moderate lurkers at this liberal blog?

Nobody_Knows
Nobody_Knows

@The_Centrist @td1234 

You have no debating skills hence the reason you get laughed at as well as subject yourself to counting and categorizing the comments into simpleton means that you can cope with and understand.

lolololololololol

BK37
BK37

When all else fails, play the socialist card.  Typical.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist True but since we only have 15 to 20 posters on this blog and have 138 listeners it is good to show how ridiculous the socialist arguments really are when you know there is a certain % of the lurkers are moderates attempting to figure it all out. When they only hear one side of the debate then they may actually start believing the socialist viewpoints are acceptable.  

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234 @Ralph-43 Who determines the "best" or "brightest?"  Are the "best and brightest" only to come from an expensive private school where every opportunity to succeed is provided, while some rural school in S. Ga. has had its budget cut, it's teachers furloughed, its class sizes increased by 20%, and the school year shortened because of repuppy cuts to education, and students seeing their performance likewise reduced? Is a fifteen year old sophomore supposed to just bear down harder to overcome the roadblocks put in their path by these repup legislators, while the North Fulton preppies coast to their free ride?

This is what the repups want, an aristocracy governing us, who will ensure that no program can exist that will uplift someone from their meager upbringing, i.e. someone who "doesn't know their place."

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Debating socialists here is a waste of time.  Georgia has settled on the Hope Scholarship being a scholarship without means testing.  The reason being is that it is fair and keeps more high achievers from moving out of state (brain drain).  The left is not going to be able to change it back.

td1234
td1234

@Ralph-43 So in other words you believe the Hope should not go to the best and brightest children but instead go to the poor only. 

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@AuntieChrist @td1234 These right wing moochers keep stuffing their own pockets at our expense.  Anxiety sets in when they see the disadvantaged getting any advantage. 

td1234
td1234

@AuntieChrist The original law was passed when the state was run by Democrats. It was since amended because it was an entitlement program instead of a pure merit based system. Carter was attempting to take it back to an entitlement program. 


My statement stands and it is not a lie and I am not confused. You either believe that Hope should be for the best and brightest children in the state or you believe it should be for the needy and an entitlement program. 

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

@td1234 @AuntieChrist So you concede that the original law was "needs based," and you understood enough about it to work against it, yet you post a comment that Carter wanted to "turn it from a merit based....to just another entitlement."  Are you lying now, or just confused?