Posted: 3:58 pm Tuesday, March 18th, 2014

Jason Spencer invokes Nathan Deal’s support of anti-Obamacare bill 

By Jim Galloway

That press conference that state Rep. Jason Spencer, R-Woodbine, called off because his bill to make Obamacare radioactive in Georgia had begun to make “dramatic progress”?

It went on anyway.

HB 707 would prohibit state and local officials from lending any hand to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. It would bar the state insurance commissioner from enforcing the insurance mandates required by the ACA – like the ban on pre-existing conditions.

At the reinstated gathering, Spencer expressed his thanks to House Speaker David Ralston and state Rep. Ed Lindsey of Atlanta, a sponsor of the bill and a GOP congressional candidate. The Camden County lawmaker even had this to say about his compatriots who think the bill is too soft:

“There are groups out there that feel like we have not gone far enough, but you see where they’re bills are – they haven’t got out of committee….We have fought that fight, and we’re not going to win that fight….  

“Sometimes you can only get what you can get – when you can get it. What we’re going to get today is 707.”

Now, as for that dramatic progress he advertised. Said Spencer:

“The governor now has gotten involved. And he’s going to work with 707. And I believe that’s going to help the Senate make up their minds.”

It was pointed out that the governor doesn’t run the Senate. Replied Spencer:

“No, he does not. But he is showing support. And that support goes a long way.”

Has Spencer had a chat with Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle?

“At this point, I have not had a conversation with the lieutenant governor. I have just recently had conversations with the governor’s people.

“I believe that support will go a long way toward changing people’s minds.”

After this, we trekked over to the governor’s office, where a spokeswoman for Gov. Nathan Deal said her boss’ official position on the developing situation was silence. No comment.

We have known governors who would tell one party that a bill would have his signature if it gets to his desk. But would then tell the House speaker or lieutenant governor that there’d be hell to pay if it got there.

We’re not saying this is the case with Deal – but with so much winking and nodding going on, it can’t be ruled out.

52 comments
Shar1
Shar1

Let's ask Mr. Spencer if he is willing to give up his taxpayer-funded healthcare first.  Since legislators gave themselves this extremely expensive benefit for life in exchange for 40 days of "work" a year, you'd think the astonishing cost of this government waste would be his first target.


Surely he isn't a hypocrite?

Joeleejohnson
Joeleejohnson

Nocturnal politics has always been 'SOP' at OUR legislature. Know any other 'light challenged' creatures?

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

You would think that Deal would be astute enough not to encourage this landing in his lap in an election year. But then again, this is the man who a couple of weeks ago suggested that the real problem with health care is the EMTALA -- the federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department of a hospital to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay. Hence, it is really difficult to gauge if these Republicans are witless or just venal.

BigHat
BigHat

The first rule about GA Medicaid is you don't talk about GA Medicaid.  The second rule about GA Medicaid is you don't talk about GA Medicaid.  

Point
Point

Why no outrage at having to pay for Balfour's legal fees? I didn't sign on for that.  Let the politicians who signed on to that wild goose chase pay for it.  And if my tax dollars are going to pay for a Falcons parking lot, then I want a lifetime free parking pass.

Could I please apply for the state job that decides what the state can and cannot afford.  I think I could do a better job.  Heck, I'll do it for half the salary!

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

By refusing to expand Medicaid coverage, states would leave at least 3.6 million people uncovered by health insurance.A study from the nonprofit Rand Corp. notes that by refusing to accept the federal tax return, the states have a potential loss of $8.4 billion and the need to raise $1 billion to cover hospital losses.It is predicted that at least 19,000 unnecessary deaths will occur each year in those states refusing expansion.

DecaturDramaQueen
DecaturDramaQueen

It appears that Jason Spencer needs to check himself into a mental hospital and go to rehab for Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Acidic
Acidic

Many of our legislators are good old boys who are not especially bright, in my opinion.  They really like to do anything that proves they hate Obama, even if it's not in the best interest of their constituents.  Ed Lindsay is different.  He's not ignorant.  He's not simple.  He's a wealthy Buckhead lawyer who lives a life of privilege, but he seems to take a particular, almost sadistic pleasure in supporting legislation that targets the poor, the unfortunate, and the unpopular.  Mercifully, he has one more day in the legislature.  Few who've ever served there have done more damage to the common man in this state, be they black or white or brown, in my opinion as a lifelong observer of Georgia politics and government.  He is not especially well know, but he's probably one of the worst human beings in public life in Georgia.  If he wins his congressional race, God help us all, but at least he won't be continuing his cynical efforts in the General Assembly. 

Bernie31
Bernie31

The Goobers at the Dome said YES to a $17 million for a PARKING LOT for The ATlanta Falcons Football Team....Nothing for The Poor & NEEDY...whose Numbers in Georgia are Overwhelmingly Children.


Father, Forgive them, for They ALL have Left off to Be and Do Good.....


Surely One cannot expect any amount of SUCCESS, behind such a DASTARDLY Evil Act. If I were Arthur Blank, I would reject this offer and say No Thanks...But No,Thanks..I will pay for it Myself.

saying " I HAVE a SOUL".


Anyone who is confused why The South Lost the Civil War...need only to LQQK  at these Empty Dark Souless Christian Pretenders. Gotta Love those Republican Values...They have none, AT ALL!


UNBELIVABLE!

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

"We have known governors who would tell one party that a bill would have his signature if it gets to his desk. But would then tell the House speaker or lieutenant governor that there’d be hell to pay if it got there.

We’re not saying this is the case with Deal – but with so much winking and nodding going on, it can’t be ruled out."


You know, business as usual. 


Ralph-43
Ralph-43

$17 million for a Falcons parking deck and they can't deliver healthcare and keep the hospitals open?  Anybody that votes for either this creep, Spencer, or considers renewing a contract for the Bad Deal has to take responsibility for the human damage being done by these uneducated bigots.  It will come back to bite you where you wish it would not - bank account and Georgia recruitment.  We are now infamous nationwide as a bunch of overweight white male gun-doting, inebriated, slurred speech slobs.  Congratulations.

BigTimeJacketFan
BigTimeJacketFan

Got to repeal emperornerocare.  This will help.  Already killing people around the country (not surprising from the folks that brought us Roe vs. Wade).  Abominable legislation designed only to steal freedom.

dreluv
dreluv

Georgians are so mad at these republican and Nathan Deal it going to be sad faces in 2014 election..These republicans got to go they are destroying Georgia..Jason Carter will win 2014

Bernie31
Bernie31

My How Satan and his many minions of Workers of Iniquity weave their web of HATred for The Poor & Needy. Those who Vote for this plan will no doubt face our Heavenly Father, who will one day have a Vote on their Fate too. 


"Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:
They encourage themselves in an evil matter" - Psalms 64

uh..huh.

honested
honested

Why is it that the most confused of the Georgia gop think it is a good idea to pass 'un-Constitutional laws' then expect full support in defense of those laws in an eventual Supreme Court loss?


Do they remember who is paying the bills for both the General Assembly and all levels of the Court?

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

I hope that the Governor is not as extreme in his thinking as is this Republican lawmaker from Woodbine, Georgia.  


I had never heard the name of Rep. Jason Spencer before he sponsored this bill (HB707).  I will not forget his name, now, and I will urge others to vote him out of office and put in a Democrat, who will care about the health of all of Georgia's citizens.


Ditto are my thoughts regarding Republican Rep. Edward Lindsey of Atlanta, a sponsor of this outrageous bill.

Andy123
Andy123

Obamacare is so popular, that's why not a single Democrat up for re-election wants to be seen with Obama. 


That's ok though, Obama was elected in 2008 because the overwhelming majority of Americans had overspent and maxed out their credit cards and their HELOCs on their interest only mortgaged homes and wanted their mommy and that's exactly what Obama campaigned on.  Of course he only bailed out big business and Wall St, but it's not like he cares. 


The people get the leader they deserve as always. 

honested
honested

@BigHat  

Talk or not, we still have to pay for it.

Why do the wrong-wingers think we should pay more than is necessary?

td1234
td1234

@Point  It should be this way in our legal system that the losing side pays all legal fees. This money should come right out of the pockets of the Democrats and Republican members that insisted on prosecuting Balfour on trumped up charges. 

td1234
td1234

@Ralph-43  Obama has signed executive orders 20 something times changing the law why does he not sign another executive order stating that these people will be covered under Obamacare? Especially since the SCOTUS struck down the provision that forced states to expand Medicaid. This is not the Republicans fault but the Democrats fault for wanting a political issue and making these 3.6 million pay the price for it. 

Bernie31
Bernie31

@JaneAusten2 - Georgia is GOOBER Land....Goobers hate Obama. Goobers are LOSERS too!

uh..huh

td1234
td1234

@Acidic  Dang if these good old boys are not bright then where does that leave people like Hank "Guam is going to tilt into the sea" Johnson and Sheila " the Constitution is 400 years old" Jackson Lee?

J.Trump
J.Trump

Preach Bernie Preach..... ;)

honested
honested

@BigTimeJacketFan  

Was their a contest today offering a prize to whomever could stuff the most irrelevant wrong-wing talking points into a paragraph?

anothercomment
anothercomment

I will not for for Lindsay for Congress. He has all his signs right next to bad denture wearing Phil Gingrey off Mt. Paren in Buckhead . Ironically, right next to the Shenck school and they want to deny kids with disabilities insurance, kids with Autism.

I just donated to Michelle Nunn for Senate today. Jason Carter will get his donation on Friday.

Baumer_1
Baumer_1

@Andy123  


We are a little freer now and aren't spending trillions of dollars on a war over false pretenses.


The Obama economy has been really good...whose portfolios are not better now than 2007? Unemployment rate is down, not up.  in fact 2.5million jobs were added since the 2nd inaugural address.  Inflation is at historic lows.


I really don't know what conservatives are crying about...bunch of whiny b!tches if you ask me.  If anything you guys are upset that your doomsday prophecies all failed.


Moreover, if anything, some Democrats "run away" from the ACA because public perceptions have been skewed by the conservative media. The only unpopular part of the ACA is the individual mandate...and even that is more popular than George W. Bush was. The rest of the bill has unusually high approval ratings.  


The word Obamacare is what people don't like...they like the legislation, just not the specter raised by the nickname.

honested
honested

@Andy123  

classclown, 

'Not one single Democrat'?

You need to get out more and maybe read something other than wrong-wing tomes.

The so called conserrrrrrrrrvatives are so busy patting themselves on the back for their failure to put the insurance industry back into gonad grip control of health care that they fail to realize their efforts have generated little more than hot air.

Ask your neighbors (if they still speak to you) if they favor returning to lifetime caps or pre-existing condition exclusions. Even you might be surprised.

As to your fanciful review of recent financial history, you left out 'spent into peony due to the Iraqi War of Choice' but you guys seem to forget that unless reminded.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Probably pretty popular with the ones who are smart enough to get better, cheaper insurance coverage for themselves - like my kids....

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@honested Big Hat rarely makes any sense.  I woundn't pay any attention to him.  Apparently, the so-called big hat is actually about 5.5 inches and is a protective helmut that his mother makes him wear.  (Some damage at birth.)

honested
honested

@td1234 @Point 

Why not take it out of olen's salary, since his rank incompetence prevented mr. balfour from enjoying the digs he deserves this evening?

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@td1234 Doesn't sound like you understand the funding of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or the Supreme Court decision.  You can get a copy for $10 from Amazon.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

td, you really need to learn about things before you comment on them.

Medicaid is a state program, mostly funded by the feds, but under the control of the states.

And to say the Dems wanted a political issue is just goofy.  They wanted to provide health insurance to working poor people.  You, as a Christian, should want the same thing - instead you and your fellow travelers do everything possible to deny the Waffle House waitresses and day care workers - the ones who would benefit from this - the advantages of having health insurance.

td1234
td1234

@Bernie31 Obama is a socialist. Obama sucks and anyone that supports him are nothing more than wanna be communist. 

Acidic
Acidic

td, you're an idiot and a racist.

honested
honested

@td1234 @Acidic 

Also it's funny you can overlook paul 'lies from the pit of hayul', dimmest bulb in Congress, why do I get a rhetoric coach when I can't even pay my staff, broun.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

"Already killing people around the country"?

Several french fries short of a happy meal, aren't you.....

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@anothercomment


Good for you!  Spread the word to your friends, neighbors, and family and ask them to vote the same as you are voting. Share the reasons you are voting for Michelle Nunn and Jason Carter, both Democrats, with them. Ask your neighbors, friends, and family to spread the word to their neighbors, friends, and family, also.  Word of mouth goes a long way. Thank you!

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@Baumer_1


In the decades that follow, President Obama will be fully identified with Obamacare and he will be praised for having accomplished something that was almost impossible to do, similar to FDR's accomplishment in getting Social Security passed for older Americans decades ago.


Someone on this blog suggested that in the future Medicare, itself, will become an exchange option (for those younger than 65).  I thought that that was an outstanding idea from a perceptive blogger. This idea needs to be further touted.

honested
honested

@td1234 @CherokeeCounty 

Which of your neighbors would prefer to continue paying MORE through the current non-Medicaid-qualifying indigent care system?

Even you must comprehend it costs MORE to provide care to those without means outside the Medicaid system.

If not, you might want to bone up a bit.

Ideology won't pay for it.

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty  DCH actually administers Medicaid but they contract with DFCS to determine eligibility. 

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Sorry, but if you're telling me that DFCS administers Medicaid, then no I think it's you who has missed the boat.

And I agree that it would be wonderful if everyone could afford to pay for their own health care.  But that's not the world we live in.

My daughter works for a private agency that reports to DFCS.  There are lots of working poor people out there who work hard at their jobs at Waffle House, or the day care, or the hair salon.  But they still can't afford health insurance.  I still wonder why someone who loudly professes his right to call out others for things like homosexuality, is so blind to Jesus' obvious instructions about meeting the needs of the poor.

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty  The states have some flexibility in Medicaid but the policy for these programs are made at the Federal level. You know not what you are talking about my friend. I have worked for DFCS in the past and my wife has 20 years at DFCS working in these programs. 


I do want people to have access to insurance but I do not want to subsidise or pay for the insurance. People should pay for what they have. I want people to have choices in plans and to be able to pick what fits them best not just Gold, silver or bronze. 

honested
honested

@td1234 @Bernie31 

I wish Obama was a Socialist.

Real Socialist reforms would make the wrong-wing cry in the streets.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

LOL.  OK.

I like Bernie, but he can be a little over the top sometimes.

td1234
td1234

@CherokeeCounty  Not a Catholic so we do not have wine. Just giving good ole Bernie back the same medicine as he/she hands out.  

td1234
td1234

@Acidic  Wow, what an incredible vocabulary you have there my friend. I am pretty sure with your superior intellect that you would do a wonderful job working for the DNC is the least educated precincts in the nation.    

Chris30338
Chris30338

@CherokeeCounty Killing people around the country??? Got any facts to back up the horse dung you're shoveling here?