Posted: 2:09 pm Wednesday, March 5th, 2014

Deal predicts changes coming to Common Core legislation 

By Greg Bluestein

That Common Core legislation that has so infuriated educators? Expect some big changes to it before the session is out.

Gov. Nathan Deal, whose staff helped draft the controversial legislation, said it is “not a finished product” and that revisions were on the way.

Senate Bill 167 calls for a review of whether the state should stay within Common Core, the national education standards that have ticked off tea party members and other conservatives who fear a takeover of education policy. But educators also fear the language would prevent students from being tested on material tied to the standards, such as the SAT and ACT.

Deal said the bill’s sponsor,Republican state Sen. William Ligon of Brunswick is “very willing” to address the concerns. Said Deal:

“This is not a finished product at this point in time, so I think until we see what the finished product is, it’s premature … I don’t think anyone wants to set Georgians’ education back. I certainly do not and I would not sign anything that I think would be a step in the wrong direction. I do think we have to address concerns, concerns of the public and within the education community. And we have to do it in a responsible fashion.”

63 comments
CharlesHendrix
CharlesHendrix

Rubber Stamp Legislature. I don't care what bill is proposed in which chamber it is abundantly clear the only thing that matters is a if a Republican sponsors the bill. Knowing what these proposals contain is not important.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

Deal is no genius but when both Bill Gates and Warren Buffett support Common Core and two ladies that find math "confusing and out of date" are opposed, he may be smart enough to line up with people that appear to know something about math.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

Deal knows he could go down just on this one issue.  Georgians are tired of being the butt of every 'dumb hick' joke in the world.  Unfortunately for Deal, Carter is way ahead on this issue. 

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

Flip flop Deal.  In an election year, if it is found that some of his "changes" make a bunch of people mad, he will make the change FOR THE ELECTION YEAR. Look out, folks!  This "fella" is out only for himself, and his reelection, THIS YEAR.  Next year, stupid stuff like this bill and teachers' insurance will sail right through, because he will have "gotten his."  The only hope Georgia has is  to defeat him in the May primary! Otherwise, it will be ALL OVER!

EdUktr
EdUktr

The usual malcontents in our failed public education system are trying to subvert reform—as usual. I hope legislators will attach a tuition voucher system to the final bill.

td1234
td1234

Nunn and Carter will get easy wins in the primary so Democrats (especially teachers) should not worry about crossing over in the primary and voting for Barge and sending Deal to retirement. Hey you could even be helping Nunn by voting for Broun in the primary since the liberal braintrust believe she can beat him in the general election. 

Andy123
Andy123

I remember back in 8th grade I was in an accelerated science class and our science teacher had a 'review' for us for some standardized test we were having the next day.  I'll be damned if the next day we didn't have the same exact questions that we just happened to know the right answers to. 

dreluv
dreluv

I will vote for Barge in the primary and then vote for Jason Carter in the general election

dreluv
dreluv

I am a democrat going to vote for republican barge in the primary. I will vote for Jason Carter in the general election.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

Looks like this will turn into a thread for td and centrist to carry on the argument they've had on this site for the last month or so. "barge will win." "No, deal will win."  "librul media." "No, barge will win." librul media. "No, deal will win." librul media. "barge will win." "No, deal will win."  "librul media." "No, barge will win." librul media. "No, deal will win." librul media. "barge will win." "No, deal will win."  "librul media." "No, barge will win." librul media. "No, deal will win." librul media.

Starik
Starik

If we teach to national standards, maybe more Georgia kids can qualify for admission to Georgia and Georgia Tech.  Georgia politicians, like Deal, rely on an ignorant electorate.

AuntieChrist
AuntieChrist

http://www.times-herald.com/local/20140119-SUNBarge-says-majority-of-teachers-support-Common-Core

Teachers and school superintendents are satisfied with keeping the national Common Core Standards, according Georgia State Representative Brooks Coleman and State School Superintendent John Barge.

“One hundred percent of superintendents said ‘let’s keep it,’” said Coleman at the Georgia Partnership for Excellence in Education’s annual media forum at the beginning of January. “We’ve gone too far. We’ve spent three years getting ready. We’ve spent millions of dollars.”

“Teachers said unanimously, ‘Don’t make us start all over, and change it every time we do something different,’” he added. “‘Let’s stay the course for a while.’”

Barge also referenced a survey which had been sent out to teachers across the state.

“I can tell you that based on what I’ve seen of the over 11,000 responses that we received from teachers across the state, over 80 percent of our teachers in this state are in favor of keeping the standards,” he said. “They like the standards. They want to keep them. There are recommendations for refinements and that’s exactly what I wanted to see.”

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Love how the teanuts keep saying this is a 'takeover' by the federal gummint. It is laughable how easily the unreconstructed, low-info  confederates can be hoodwinked to reactively say 'no' whenever they hear the word 'federal,' ignoring facts and numerous statements to the contrary.

Jefferson1776
Jefferson1776

Just fund educations,  let the educators teach. Politicians are the problem.

honested
honested

Teaclown changes to common core:

Teach creationism.

Teach math based on trickle down.

Teach 'respect for the corporatocracy'.

More time for football!

TeachSS
TeachSS

What is sad is that Georgia Science teachers have been working on standards since Common Core does not address SS and Science - except in reading/writing - and Gov Deal is saying that he would not adopt any new standards. What a slap in the face to those teachers working for our students. 

td1234
td1234

Deal is playing with fire on this one with a teachers candidate on one side and the Tea party on the other while Deal is in the middle. The way this piece of legislation is settled will go a long way towards telling you which side Deal fears worse in the upcoming primary.  

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

The more I read the AJC articles (including Maureen Downey's on Get Schooled) giving information about what Senate Bill 167 contains, the more disbelieving I become. How can it be that the legislators would set aside the last two years' worth of time and (a lot of) money this way? Create a bill with so many possible unintended disastrous side-effects? Maureen here reminds me very much of Paul Revere shouting the warning to fellow Americans: "The British are coming! The British are coming!"

GAParent
GAParent

@Wascatlady  That's called politics.  It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.


The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@Wascatlady - Michelle Nunn will miss your vote.  Dr. Rad must be counting on Nunn supporters crossing over into the Republican primary.

td1234
td1234

@Wascatlady  We have not agreed often over the years but I am in 100% agreement with you on this one. 

GAParent
GAParent

@EdUktr  Try getting into a public school classroom once - you won't last two days.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

td posted his Democrat crossover plea with "even be helping Nunn by voting for Broun".  Why not the equally right winger and lighter weight, Handel?

Kamchak
Kamchak

I was in an accelerated science class, too. The only difference is, I had to walk 15 miles to school, one way, barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways, 365 days a year.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Ga Tech has more admissions from Georgia than the rest of the world.  Both Tech and UGA  get more than enough quality Georgia students.  The top end students in Georgia are not the problem - it is the lower end, and due to culture and SES instead of standards.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Deal is a shoe in for winning both the Republican primary and re-election next November against Jason Carter.  Every political pundit has him "safe" or "solid". 

BuckheadBoy
BuckheadBoy

@Diddler-on-the-Roof Here's a solution: We just change "country" to "corporation" in your quote, the enablers of what you think is conservatism will be delighted, your mentors on Fox News and talk radio will then embrace Common Core, and your fear will be dissipated as quickly as it was fabricated.

NOlongerRepublican
NOlongerRepublican

@Diddler-on-the-Roof Wow...how stupid are you? Everybody is NOT ticked off because Georgia education need some serious help. And I find it quite difficult to distinguish between liberal Algebra and conservative Algebra. This is math and reading curriculum we are talking about, not social studies and science which can be skewed. Get your head out of you a## and pay attention! 

Kamchak
Kamchak

Michelle Nunn will miss your vote.

 Michelle Nunn will miss your primary vote.

Centrist_boy is skeeeeeered of Michelle Nunn.
 

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist  One of Nunn's biggest appeals will be that she is a woman and get the women that just want to vote for a woman. Karen splits that vote and easily wins the race. Bourn will win also but it will not be as easy. 

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist  "Every political pundit has him "safe" or "solid".  Against Carter I agree. Can you please show me where any pundit has analysed the primary?  

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

I'm still looking at Perdue.  Probably won't decide until I early vote.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist  I am voting for Kingston in the primary. I would not vote for Handel 4 years ago because she does not have a college degree and I think that should be a must requirement to support me in office. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

Neither Broun or Handel will get my vote - much prefer Nunn to them.

Not to worry - neither of them are likely to make the runoff (but probably have a better chance than Barge).

GAParent
GAParent

@td1234 @The_Centrist  Thing is - Deal was rated "safe" or "solid" before this mess came to pass.  I know it's changed several people's vote around here.  I'm sure he has lost some standing. 

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist @td1234  I have not seen if Barge has asked for a debate but he has a pretty strong grassroots effort. I believe Pennington is attempting to get free public attention in the Atlanta market by calling out Deal. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

@td1234 - Me neither-  but you know they have internal polls.  That is why you see Pennington begging for Deal to debate.

td1234
td1234

@The_Centrist  I have not seen a poll done in since November done that shows a primary. 

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

They just list him safe (against all comers including Pennington, Barge, and Carter)  There are no polls showing either Pennington or Barge as a credible threat.