Posted: 1:40 pm Friday, February 21st, 2014

Police seek three Georgia freshmen in desecration of Ole Miss statue 

By Daniel Malloy

The New York Times has the latest from Oxford, Miss.:

The University of Mississippi said Friday that the authorities were seeking interviews with three white students as part of their investigation into the desecration this week of a statue of James Meredith, the first black student to enroll at the university.

In a statement released Friday morning, the university said three 19-year-old freshmen from Georgia were refusing to speak with investigators about the Sunday-morning episode, in which a noose was placed around Mr. Meredith’s bronze neck. A flag with the Confederate battle emblem was left at the statue, which is on the campus here.

The university said that two of the students, who were not identified because of an educational privacy law, had agreed to meet with investigators on Thursday morning, before skipping the session. The university later learned that those students and one other freshman had retained lawyers, who said they would not allow the men to be questioned without arrest warrants.

The Associated Press was more specific on one point: The flag was the 1956 version of the Georgia state banner — the one that Gov. Roy Barnes brought down in 2001. From the news agency:

Police on Sunday found a noose tied around the neck of the statue, along with an old Georgia flag with a Confederate battle emblem in its design. The design has since been updated to exclude the emblem.

 University spokesman Danny Blanton said Friday the school’s findings have been turned over to the district attorney’s office. Blanton said the university will also proceed with internal disciplinary action through a judicial panel that consists of both faculty and students.

 District Attorney Ben Creekmore did not immediately respond to a message left by The Associated Press. However, he told WMC-TV in Memphis that criminal charges would be difficult.

 Creekmore said investigators and prosecutors have looked into several misdemeanors as possible charges, but he said criminal charges were unlikely by his office because the statue was not physically damaged, and the suspects did not appear to be trespassing.

 He said federal investigators could opt to bring charges if they saw fit. Creekmore said if new information comes to light, his office could revisit the issue.

 FBI spokeswoman Deborah Madden said the agency is continuing to assist in the investigation.

 The Ole Miss Alumni Association is offering at $25,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. University Police Department Chief Calvin Sellers said the reward offer gave police some good leads in the case.

 When Meredith tried to enter Ole Miss in fall 1962, Mississippi’s governor tried to stop him. That led to violence on the Oxford campus.

 U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy sent 500 U.S. marshals to take control and days later, Meredith was allowed in the school. Though he faced harassment during his time at the school, he graduated with a degree in political science.

166 comments
Lee_CPA
Lee_CPA

Google "Confederate Statues Vandalized" and there are hundreds of examples of statues that were ACTUALLY VANDALIZED.  However, in not a single case was the FBI called in nor was there talk of it being a "Hate Crime". 

Just goes to show the absurdity of the politically correct and their lap-dog media to make a circus out of this event, which did not even rise to the level of a simple property crime of vandalism since there was NO DAMAGE TO THE STATUE.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

Am I wrong in thinking that POAD is a sock-puppet for another prolific meaningless, letter-number combination poster here?

POAD2013
POAD2013

I will make 100 bets that NOTHING BAD will happen tonight at The Institutes ONYX BALL. No people will be shot and no women will be acusted. 

POAD2013
POAD2013

I'm so white this has been fun.



Bernie31
Bernie31

Ole Miss is what HAPPENS, when You Do Not Flush......

uh...huh.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

A couple of folks (and one in particular) here seem desperate to paint what happened at Ole Miss as some kind of prank that went too far.  


Let's start with the premise that what these 3 fools did was wrong. And if you disagree with that, then you should stop reading this post right now.


Now lets move on to the image these clowns created:

A noose around the neck of a statue of a well known black man with a Confederate flag draped around it.


It is by no means a stretch of the imagination that the message could be interpreted as, "here in the south, we hang black people".  If someone has a different interpretation, I am listening, but give me 5 minutes to pop some popcorn.


That message transcends the concept of a silly prank because it associates an image of violence (lynching) with a particular group of people, in this case, blacks.  That raises the action well beyond that of a simple prank. It is the very definition of hate speech and that is a whole different can of worms.


You can stand on a street corner and by virtue of the 1st amendment declare your superiority over another race.  I, along with most people, will simply point and laugh at you. But when you declare that belief gives you the right or moral imperative to visit violence against those same folks, I will still be pointing, but I won't be laughing.

NWGAL
NWGAL

You're white? I would never have guessed. (snark)

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Bernie31  Thank goodness GOD Flushed New Orleans with katrina right? Now the GOOD people and business owners of NoLa can start their city free of the Ghetto, Crime, Dirty cops and the Gangs. I hope the Black White and Creole people can make NoLa the great sity is was without the TRASH the city allow to continue to procreate and make the city unsafe......Just like Underground Atlanta.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@LookbeforeIleap  What about the GEORGIA kids that play Football at Ole Miss that beat a kid? Is that OKAY? These 2 things are related. Black FOOTBALL PLAYERS being protected by the school and WHITE student making a statement about the INEQUALITIES. Get on the BUS to press charges against the Nkemdiche brothers for beating a White frat boy.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@NWGAL  Most of you like to call me High Yellow. I look like the people you like to elect.....I'm not Blue Gum....I have the TINT you find good to look at on TV.

NWGAL
NWGAL

POAD, Any attempt at sensible conversation with you is pointless. You are a contemptible piece of crap, wrapped up in hate. What these guys did might be a prank but it's a disgusting one. Like raping a woman and putting up the images on Facebook. Nooses have a very specific meaning. To pretend otherwise is well, as my momma would say,certain language is just not acceptable in polite company.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@POAD2013 @LookbeforeIleap 

You should stop quibbling. It makes you look silly.  I have seen multiple reports that used the term "draped".  In any event, the flag was present and the imagery, IMHO, is clear.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@POAD2013 @LookbeforeIleap 

The incident you keep harping on, happened over a year ago.  The university investigated and found no evidence to support charges against the Nkemdiche brothers. So far as I know. none of the suspects (now apparently down to 2) has made this claim.  So as of right now, the relationship only exists in your head.

Kamchak
Kamchak

These 2 things are related.


As yet unproven.

Just remindin'.

OriginalProf
OriginalProf

@POAD2013 @NWGAL You say you're "high yellow"? That's an old African American term for people who are biracial--white and black--with a very pale skin tone. "The yellow rose of Texas" isn't about a flower. 


That explains quite a bit here.

NWGAL
NWGAL

High yellow? Is that like unmellow yellow? We are all Americans.

NWGAL
NWGAL

Klingons. Hate these automatic spell corrections.

NWGAL
NWGAL

The Federation would have defeated the Kingons....

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@NWGAL  

If the Federation had the same deflector technology that POAD has, they would've kicked the Romulan's *sses 200 years ago.

NWGAL
NWGAL

You really are grasping at straws, deflecting from the conversation by changing the subject. People who commit crimes should be punished. Hate crimes included.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@NWGAL  perverse standards? many of you want to attach a HATE CRIME to something that is Nothing. I guess all the Missing and Murdered Atlanta Children were killed by Wayne Williams too right? The arrest of WW stopped the case and do you really think he killed all those kids?  FACTS in court NEVER PROVED he killed all those kids but yo want to think JUSTICE WAS SERVED?

NWGAL
NWGAL

This is a straw man. If someone commits a crime, they should be punished. Black, white, yellow, blue. You ascribe to others your own perverse standards.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@NWGAL  What about the football players? Call a Spade a Spade...Assault Assault. Stop protecting the ATHLETES.........SEC SEC SEC.

NWGAL
NWGAL

People who commit crimes should be prosecuted. These freshmen are no exception. I'm willing to give them some latitude because they are young and stupid, but you not so much.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@NWGAL  any conversation about real race relations is lost on you that keep forgiving the mistakes & shortcomings of the other race. To make strides towards acceptance then both sides have to call out the offenders.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Got any proof the brothers were involved in the beating?


Yeah, good luck with that.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@LookbeforeIleap EXACTLY....the Black TOP PLAYERS were given a FREE PASS........SEC SEC SEC SEC.......and students know that is BS.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@POAD2013 @LookbeforeIleap

Speculaltion, hypothesis, theory, opinion, belief - all mean the same thing in this context

Wordsmithing is doing nothing to increase your credibility.

You have been playing post hoc ergo propter hoc and reductio ad absurdum all day and it has been fun to watch.

Let me know when you have a fact that is less than a year old to back up your claims.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Why do you think it happened?


I don't know why this happened, and unlike you I'm not gonna just make sh*t up because it fits a certain narrative.

Just sayin'.


POAD2013
POAD2013

@LookbeforeIleap I didn't make stuff up I posed and alternate theory of how/why the SUPPOSED Crime happened.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  Why do you think it happened? Do you think those students HATE Mr Meredith? Do you think they have no Black friends? Do you really think they want to LYNCH Black people? What do you think them hanging a noose on Mr Meredith's Statute meant? WHAT WAS THE STATEMENT they were wanting to make?

Since you are so GD Smart use your Brain and try to see what the point of this act was?

Be a Police or FBI Detective and get in the mind of the offender and post a plausible reason for this act of Hatred.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@POAD2013 @Kamchak 

You really should stop trying to sound like you are a lawyer. Watching reruns of Law & Order do not a lawyer make.

In general (and I am NOT a lawyer), a defense is restricted to making conclusions based on evidence introduced during trial.  In other words, they don't get to make sh*t up.

Kamchak
Kamchak

The case I've made is reasonable and in relation to the events surrounding the crime.


Not even in the same galaxy as a factual statement. 

You have offered absolutely no proof at all despite repeated requests.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  the Defense is allowed to present an alternative basis for the crime as long at it is reasonable. The case I've made is reasonable and in relation to the events surrounding the crime.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@LookbeforeIleap I said it was my opinion that these are related based on their timing and the details of the events. 

Kamchak
Kamchak

FACTS don't matter in court...


Can you offer any proof at all of this continued assertion?

You can either back up what comes out of that pie-hole of yours, or you can't.

It's not complicated.

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

@POAD2013 @Kamchak 

We are not in a court of law and you are not a lawyer so stop with the silliness would ya?  You have been asked repeatedly to back up your claims and you have not offered a single citation.  Why not show just a scintilla of intellectual honesty and admit that what you are spouting here is your OPINION and as of yet, have no facts to back it up. I offered my opinion and conclusion based in the facts that I am aware of at this point in time.  If you think a different interpretation is warranted, then either refute the facts I used or show me a conclusion that is different and kindly refrain from introducing YOUR OPINION as fact.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  FACTS don't matter in court....it is ONLY what you can PROVE The FACTS surrounding an incident don't matter. If you can't look in the news and see where that happens all the time i have nothing for you. O.J. Simpson & Casey Anthony are just 2 that come to mind.

Kamchak
Kamchak

FACTS don't mean crap in a court of LAW.


(sigh)

Got proof?

Please show your work.

Thanks in advance.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  FACTS don't mean crap in a court of LAW. The FACTS will NEVER BE KNOWN.....the LAW and COURTS don't give a crap about FACTS....they only care about the 10 seconds of ACTION they can PROVE. The FACTS of a situation have no value in a court of LAW.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Until you know for FACT it was a HATE CRIME then you should acting like it was.


Not this sh*t again.

Perhaps you should address what I actually post rather than address the sh*t you make up and wish I had posted.

Just suggestin' -- again.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  Until you know for FACT it was a HATE CRIME then you should acting like it was.

Kamchak
Kamchak

...will probably never be proven.


Then perhaps you should cease stating it as a fact. You come across as a liar.

Just suggestin'.


POAD2013
POAD2013

@Kamchak  will probably never be proven. That is the POLITICALLY CORRECT thing to do. If the White boys say it was about the black boys attack that just makes the division bigger. These 2 things are not unrelated.