Posted: 12:19 pm Friday, February 14th, 2014

A brewing fight in Georgia governor’s race over Medicaid expansion 

By Greg Bluestein

The fight over a House GOP plan that would strip the executive branch of its power to expand Medicaid in Georgia is fast becoming a dividing line in the governor’s race.

We told you yesterday that state Sen. Jason Carter, the Democrat challenging Gov. Nathan Deal, attacked the governor for “passing the buck” by throwing his support behind the legislation. Now Deal’s camp is firing back.

Deal wouldn’t take questions on the matter at a press conference Friday focused on the storm cleanup, but his spokeswoman Jen Talaber issued a retort on his behalf:

“So Senator Carter believes cutting a backroom deal with the Obama administration is preferable to giving the people’s representatives, himself included, a say in how hundreds of millions of their taxpayer dollars are spent?”

H.B. 990 is sponsored by a gaggle of senior GOP leaders and would require legislative approval to expand Medicaid rolls by 600,000. The feds would finance all of the health care costs for the first three years and cover 90 percent of the costs thereafter. Deal has repeatedly said he doesn’t trust the feds to keep up their end of the bargain, but other governors have cut deals with the White House.

With the session quickly winding down, the legislation gives both parties a chance to play to their bases and revive yet another argument over President Obama’s healthcare overhaul. Expect them to make the most of it.

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hamiltonAZ
hamiltonAZ

The money for state Medicaid programs come from general revenue—taxes paid by residents from every state—regardless of whether they participate in the program. This means taxpayers in states that don’t participate in the Medicaid expansion will share in the overall cost, without benefitting from the program.

Commonwealth Fund reports that, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">in 1922 alone, Georgia will lose 2.9 billion in Federal funds.</span>

“Backroom deal?” A governor who wants what’s best for everybody and not just a few would be jumping at this deal, whether in a back room or on the hood of a car in the AJC parking lot. Even the Arizona Governor, Jan Brewer, no friend of the President's, understood this is best for her state and expanded Medicaid.


Billions leaving Georgia to go to states that put people ahead of politics.

Tincup
Tincup

The Puritans of the state legislature are quick to deny federal assistance for the poor, sick, mentally ill and disenfranchised drawing on lofty principles of fiscal conservatism; but these pristine principles are soon forgotten when the snow starts to fall in an election year or a port needs to be dredged.

Dusty2
Dusty2

Governor Deal is keeping Georgia on a safe financial setting.  State funds operate Medicaid and Georgia already has all the Medicare  "members' it can afford.  Accepting "free" money from the Federal government which is now   SEVENTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS  in debt does not sound like a good idea.  Governor Deal knows it.  Most people in Georgia know it. Now  our state representatives are working to keep a from happening at a later date.


Yep! Obama wants to send us money he doesn't have.  That's nice!!  Democrats seem to think so   

notagain
notagain

I think the Gov needs a few fed $ to dig a canal.Deal Dough and Fed.$..

notagain
notagain

In order to obligate the next president you need create lots of debt and obligations like in wars.Or local like in subsidizing drug cost.you get the drift?

dreluv
dreluv

Nathan Deal is a liar and I can't wait until the Fed Charge him with Ethic Violation.

Nathan Deal will lose because of the Medicaid cut, snow storm, bus driver and cafeteria workers

will not receive unemployment benefits while not working, teachers medical insurance.

Nathan Deal more people are angry with him.

honested
honested

I can't help but notice nobody has mentioned the most glaringly doltish comment made by our esteemed acting Governor at his 'storm conference' today:


"There are times when many groups do not want us to cooperate with the Federal Government, but this is not one of those times".

Just what would legitimately be considered a time when it is justified to be uncooperative with the Federal Government (which happens to include numerous Representatives from our State)?

Precisely which Government is it that 'those people' would prefer we cooperate with?

Did many in the General Assembly forget the lessons of the little military conflict we endured in the 1860's?


The distorted land of 'state's wrongs'.

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

“So Senator Carter believes cutting a backroom deal..."

A back room del was struck...by Deal and the Ga legislature! How did they know how/when to bail him out????

Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ
Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ

"Name ONE TIME, when such a promise has been Broken or threatened to be Be DISHONORED in These United States?" - Bernie31

Bernie, How about the 40 acres & a mule promised by the Yankees ? That never happened ! How about slavery reparations ? Put your hands out, Bernie ! 

honested
honested

Where else in the world would so called 'leaders' prefer a broken, inefficient system of indigent health care finance over a streamlined, functional system with NO ADDITIONAL COST?


I realize these clowns think 'job one' for them is to despise the President (for reasons that make no sense) but somewhere along the way they must come to grips with the responsibilities of GOVERNING!

Bernie31
Bernie31

Deal has repeatedly said he doesn’t trust the feds to keep up their end of the bargain" - Jim

This is a Very weak excuse by Governor Deal and is without MERIT and Valditiy of any kind. 

If, Dear Leader can provide even ONE (1) instance to substantiate this WILD CLAIM...I would LOVE to hear it or read it. such a Claim does not exist and never has.

When has a Politician NOT LIED when in OFFICE?

uh..huh

Bernie31
Bernie31

When has The Federal Government Not held up or lived Up to its Promise on Financing of a Government Sponsored Program Governor DEAL? Name ONE TIME, when such a promise has been Broken or threatened to be Be DISHONORED in These United States?

STRAWMAN......

uh......huh

Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ
Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ

Medicaid is not a major issue with most Georgians, regardless of how hard Jim  Galloway, Jay Bookman

and the Woodstock generation try to push it down our throats.

Those who want its expansion won't vote Republican anyway. 

Bernie31
Bernie31

@hamiltonAZ That is the difference from being a BUBBA GOOBER Politician...They always remain standing on the Principle of HATRED, than what is MORALLY Right or in the Best interest of the People. Its called "HERITAGE".

Bernie31
Bernie31

@Tincup My Friend there are no Puritans within The State of Georgia Legislature. Such a reference s Truly OFFENSIVE to real PURITANS. Within the walls of the Gold Dome its members fall into three Categories Bubbas ,Clowns and Real Americans. The Real Americans are few in Number and they are despised and without legislative power. 

The remaining  (2) two groups, Bubbas & Clowns is who is in Charge. Until we make these Backwards thinking Citizens a small minioitry in State Politics.  We will be forever faced with the likes of Charlie English in positions of great importance and responsibility. In other words, WE Are SCREWED! as a people in a BACKASSWARD thinking State.

honested
honested

@Tincup  

Wait until Georgians realize (I'm talking in a couple of decades) that no port dredging is necessary  since the Cubans have beat everyone to the punch in building a world-class 'Transfer Port'.

Since the volume of freight will not increase, the same size ships making quick little trips back and forth to Mariel is all that will be necessary.

Yet the Savannah River will be damaged forever.

anothercomment
anothercomment

Dusty you are showing your ignorance. This is a seperate pool of money. The Medicaid expansion money for the ACA . For states that were under the 138% of poverty level or did not allow non-disabled persons or non-pregnant woman on Medicaid than the federal G overn met agreed to pay 100% for the first 3 years and 90% after. The additional jobs created. Along with the additional productivity more than pay for the 10%. This money has already been set aside in the law.

Having everyone insured cuts down on indigent care. Which everyone pays for.

honested
honested

@Dusty2  

Ok dusty, what is the fallback plan the acting Governor has to effectively finance the indigent medical care expenses that will STILL OCCUR?

Getting sick or injured or getting treatment does not hing upon one's misguided anger toward the President.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

Dusty, you of course continue to praise President Bush who took us from a surplus to a crushing debt load by involving us in wars of choice, and pushing through tax cuts for the Paris Hiltons of the world.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@Dusty2 - Yes Dusty...Keep the Lies coming...No problem to spend at least (2) Two Million every week for (12.5) Twelve & a Half years and counting in Afghanistan. Nothing for the Poor & Needy of America. With Americans like you and Nathan Deal why fear The Terrorist?

For you Both are doing their JOB on their Behalf.

td1234
td1234

@honested  What is so hard to comprehend about the 10th Amendment? 

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@honested


Governor Deal is asking President Obama for the federal government to pay half of the cost of the damage done to Georgia in this latest ice storm. Obviously, there is some trust of the federal government by our governor for him to make that request.

The_Centrist
The_Centrist

He didn't get bailed out or do a back room deal.  He already denied Medicaid expansion in Georgia which is his sole determination.  He has simply agreed with the legislation to change such authority from a single elected Governor to the widely elected legislature.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ - You mean to tell me the only instance you can find where the Federal Govt failed to honor a social program is in the 1800's. A time when your own Brothers and FOREFATHERS declared War on the United States of America?

Truly amazing...You who are against Food stamps for Hungry children which is far less in costs than 40 Forty acres and a MULE for any Person of Color.The fact you had to go so far back verify's the ludicrous thinking of Governor Deal.

Thank-you! I could have not have done a better Job myself.... So Governor DEAL is LYING is what you are implying. We KNOW!

uh..huh.

Robert1959
Robert1959

@Obama-is-the-anti-Christ - Thank you for taking off your tin foil hat, sheet and combat boots. What branch of the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the GOP/tea party are you affiliated? Are you a klanman, skinhead, militia or birther? Your family, friends and neighbors know who you are. Welcome to the 21st Century and the civilized world-2014.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

@Bernie31  He also seems to believe the fed govt when they say they will share the cost of the cleanup.  Otherwise, he would not have said he was continuing the state  of emergency till Sunday.  So, he believes the fed WHEN IT SUITS HIS POLITICS!

td1234
td1234

@Bernie31  Where is the money going to come from in year 4-20 for these 600,000 to get their free insurance? 

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ - Your selected anonymous handle is offensive.  I assume you enjoy being offensive but you should be careful.  Your true identity is easily obtained and you, of course, could be assumed to be anti-American and potentially plotting treason. 

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ  I don't WANT Medicaid expansion. I wish like h3ll it wasn't needed.  However, it is needed.  It simply is not RIGHT to allow our people to go without medical care!

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ Any Georgian who is not adequately informed about Medicaid or the need for healthcare - is part of the problem and not part of the solution.  You may want to do a little more reading.   Educate yourself or seek some information from those involved.

Kamchak
Kamchak

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ  

...push it down our throats.

I have found that those who complain the most about having something pushed down their throats, are the same ones who will swallow anything.

honested
honested

@td1234 @honested 

Coming from a member of the small sliver of the public willing to disregard every amendment since the 10th.

This isn't a Constitutional separation of powers issue, it is a Confederate Partisan Separation From Reality issue.

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

My guess is you don't like the 14th amendment very well, td...if you think the 10th amendment is being ignored, file a lawsuit.  Edie Windsor did, and it's changing the world.

You too could be a hero!

DontTread
DontTread

@Robert1959  It's funny that people who want the government to live within its means and quit trampling individual rights are "tea party terrorists" according to liberals.  I suppose by that yardstick the wise people that founded this country were "terrorists" too.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@Robert1959 - This Bubba thinks he is smart...Let him continue Please..This is quite entertaining!

td1234
td1234

@Wascatlady @Bernie31  Deal is talking about future not present. Obama can promise whatever he wants to right now but in 2 years he will be out of office and nothing he promises now obligates the next President. What happens if the next President says we can no longer finance medicaid at 90% we can only do it at the 80% that we finance other medicaid? Where is the state going to come up with the extra money. Remember we are trying to totally cut out the state income tax in the next couple years.  

Eustis
Eustis

From the extra tax collections from 70,000 new jobs, taxes from the sell of medical supplies and equipment, taxes from the multiplier effect of those new jobs spending money in local communities, savings from unemployment in those communities losing their hospitals, and cost avoidance of operating regional life flights and bailouts promised by Gov Deal.

honested
honested

@td1234 @Bernie31 

The MONEY will be spent whether Georgia has the sense to expand Medicaid or not.

Only if we expand the functional and fair system, we will spend LESS.

Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ
Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ

The money grows on trees ! Libs like Bernie31 don't care because it won't come out of their pocket. Its like the Obama happy meal. You place your order, and the guy in line behind you pays for it.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@td1234 @Bernie31 - The Question You SHOULD BE asking is Why is Governor DEAL LYING? 

when he says..." he doesn’t trust the feds to keep up their end of the bargain"

does this goe for the BILLIONS he is Begging for The Port of Savannah?

If what he is saying is TRUE. then construction could get started on the DEEPENING of the PORT and then Never completed. He, YOU or I would NEVER think such a thing would ever come to PASS.

Think People...you are being BAMBOOZLED!

Larry1234567890
Larry1234567890

@td1234  We could start by cutting back the so-called tax incentives that are being given to these companies in the promise of jobs..........

Jobs that never are created but the companies get the tax incentives anyway.

Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ
Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ

Tapeworms are sucking the life out of good government. The taxpayers of Georgia will have their say, and its not going to be pretty for the moochers.

Kamchak
Kamchak

 It's funny that people who want the government to live within its means...


It's funny that people who are now whining about government living within its means seem to have no problem of the previous administration waging  two wars while pushing for more and more tax cuts.

HLHarris
HLHarris

@DontTread @Robert1959I would love to agree with you, however, our government has never lived within its means and most likely never will.  But one thing is for sure here; if you get sick, you have two choices, go to a hospital or try and heal yourself at home.  If you don't have insurance and you go to the hospital, the taxpayers are on the hook for your bill.  Georgian could maybe save a few tax dollars locally if these people had insurance, but no; because it just may help "this" President look like he accomplished something, we just can't have it happen.  And about the wise people that founded this country not being terrorists, one have to remember that one man's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.  The British surely say our guys as terrorists wouldn't you agree?


CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

sorry td, simply not true.  Insurance companies have to use 80% or so of their income to pay claims - but if claims continue to be high because your Waffle House waitress continues to be denied Medicaid, and gets her medical care at the emergency room, then the price you pay for your insurance will continue to increase.

HLHarris
HLHarris

@td1234 @Wascatlady@Bernie31I would suggest that we would come up with it from the same place we will get it when these people visit the emergency room right now.  In other words, we are gonna pay for it, it is just a matter of when?  But then again, Obama can't be allowed to have a victory, if that happen, we just might decide to elect another one.

HLHarris
HLHarris

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ If he is the anti Christ, then why the fight, I thought you guys wanted this day to come, you know the end of times.  Well, maybe you should be working with this guy, you need him to start this death spiral.

Bernie31
Bernie31

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ - when has the Federal Government NOT paid the individual States concerning the issue of Medicaid FUNDS? can you Name a period of time or State or instance?

honested
honested

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ  

Hardly little feller.

As a TAXPAYER I want to see the STATE gain maximum value for every dollar expended in this absolutely necessary service.

Ralph-43
Ralph-43

@Obama-is-The-Anti-Christ - By moocher do you mean those who use the federal highways, internet, courts, banks, police, fire, federal investigators, CDC, NIH, hospitals, certification oversight, licensure, schools, universities, libraries, healthcare, retirement plans, medicare, etc. without paying their fair share?

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